Stickley speaking Sand Trolls even were once Jungle Trolls prior to the Sundering and their land becoming a desert if memory serves.
Nope! Nowhere does it say orcs cant have wings either.
Not really, no. Them having tails would elude to a generation system as opposed to a change in lore. It would be more interesting.
Correct.
The second line (of my two line post) was a joke.
Worgens give tail
Yeah, sand trolls are a subrace of jungle trolls.
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Sure but that would actually change things.
Though now you mention itâŚ
#wingedorcs.
Or that they just werenât mentioned before now. No real reason it would need to be brought up.
Still going with why bother?
What if the wings were invisible, intangible, and not capable of flight? Seems like if wouldnât be an issue.
And itâs not really a mentioned thing⌠more so that in the game models, official art, cinematics and graphic novels there are no tailed worgen. This implies (but does not necessarily prove) that worgen donât have tails.
And why bother with a joke?
Because sometimes these forums suck and people need to be more lighthearted.
As Iâve stated in another discussion of this thread:
This did occur to me.
#wingedorcs.
They also show worgen with tails in concept art and hearthstone art regularly.
Just seems a simple and unimportant change to add as an option. Not even breaking the worgen before now not having tails in lore if it doesnât apply to all.
Then itâs just coincidence weâve not seen em on anyone important yet.
I just canât get the resistance to tails via lore.
I get a person not wanting it for themselves but thatâs why weâre asking for optional tailsâŚ
Post 6000?
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There have been some very interesting and cool opinions and ideas about how worgen can gain tails (magic, generations, druidic forms etc) and I think many of them would be cool and fit rather nicely in with the established universe.
I just donât want Blizz to be like âLmao they have tails now and always haveâ because that turns what could be an interesting lore session into just a blunt retcon
Spaghettis is also composed of biological material
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I get this sentiment, I just think it opens up too many bars to what a character could be.
Rather we get to define when and where and how for our toons more than blizzard say specifically how such a minor cosmetic came about.
I gave you actual information, you came back with childish "nu-uh"s.
Resistance via the lore is only like a handful of people that are hardcore against it. Even Ghoulbreath agreed that yeah tails wouldnât really hurt anybody.
Plenty of people have agreed that if they do add in a tail, they want it to be in a lore friendly way, which you can easily do. Heck the whole basis of Ardenweald alone is to be ârebornâ. Sure you can become a animals or whatever, but what if someone chooses they want to be a worgen, but tailed instead? Heck, thereâs even a worgen in Maldraxxus named Neena you can recruit for yout build-a-abom workshop who expresses how all she knows is the worgen curse and wishes to continue living with it in the after life. And what does she do? She asks you to turn her in to a stitched up zombie dog, tail and all. ;D There are a lot of ways you can add in tails while still being âlore friendlyâ.
My favorite explanation for getting tails is Goldrinn teaching us like a enhanced version of the worgen curse, where instead of a curse, we basically start treating it as a gift. Goldrinn is in Azeroth thought, so will be a while till we see him again⌠well what if something ends up happening in Azeroth, and we end up seeing Goldrinn in Ardenweald?
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Iâm just saying information you provided doesnât disprove mine.
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Donât you know weâre all secretly bio-machines, nanite colonies formed into a shape?
reconfigures self to have a tail See? Done.
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You didnât have any information. You have your head canon.
Go reread. I gave you information that contended yours you just gave me feelings.
I can answer why blood elves have the eye colors, and that their skin tones are fine. I can tell you why the Void Elves have access to high elf options.
I can tell you why orcs will eventually lose the green skin, and can give you several perfectly reasonable reasons for the Sand Troll skin tone.
You came here with spaghetti.
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Wasnât even good spaghetti either. Not a single mushroom or meatball to be found. Hmph.
huh sounds familiar. if youâre not relying on headcanon please show me a black elf, When everyone weâve seen has been white. Where they hiding in Silvermoon sewers like little gollum creatures?
The whole Blood elf skin color/eye color stuff is really old at this point. Same with any troll, dwarf, and even the whole tail argument.
A direct quote from Ion when someone brought up the whole âcanonâ type stuff reguarding character customization:
I think in some ways, frankly, itâs a bit of a retcon. Like weâre not going to change existing named established characters and make them look different. But walking around Stormwind or around other parts of the world, you will see guards and random civilians that have these looks as if theyâve been there all along.
That last sentence says it all. You will see guards and random civilians as if theyâve been there all along.
If anyone wants to argue it, just bring up that quote and end it there. Itâs getting old at this point seeing people argue over the same topic in a thread not related to it.
#GiveWorgenTails
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https://wow.gamepedia.com/Devi
Irregardless, show me anywhere where an actual lore source says they didnât always have those tones?
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exactly, Iâd have more respect for people who argue for it if they just say that. but instead they try to spin their weird head canon to make us seem like crazy ones for pointing out it went against lore.
What lore is it against?
Show me.