Give Priest a new kick spell called “Power Word: Stifle”

That isn’t what he said. I think you just got “gatekeeping” in your head and everything he said beyond that moment was processed as “gatekeeping”.

He took issue with your phrase that blankets are “lower play”, and he specifically attacked your phrasing. He didn’t attack your opinion that you’d prefer a kick over a blanket, though he disagreed with it.

Phrasing is important. It can shape how people view and respond to your opinions. In that instance, he attacked your phrasing.

So, disclaimer for a second. Though pvp can sometimes be scripted depending on comp, it’s unreasonable to generalize situations in pvp. Like saying “silence is supposed to be used for x” is risky to say, because the inherent nature of pvp is that much of it is improvisation.

So, that said, kill windows with shadow priest comps largely revolve around silence. Using it effectively and in tandem with your teammate is very important. If you “smooth-brain” your silence, you’re not going to land a kill.

There are much, much more circumstances in which it’s okay to use a kick than it’s okay to burn a silence. Silence has triple the cooldown, and is necessary for securing kills.

Silence also requires keeping track of dr’s, depending on the comp you’re playing.

I would 100% disagree with your notion that silence is smooth brain. Reality is, I’d argue that kick is smoother brain, if we want to stick to these extremely general, sweeping statements.

That’s fine, but a kick and a blanket really are apples and oranges. They suit different purposes. You preferring an interrupt in your toolkit is perfectly valid. But, having a blanket is one crucial thing that makes spriest synergy with other classes so strong. It extends the cc chain and prevents the healer from using instant casts that can save their team.

He never once said that. Re-read his comment.

Again, I think you perceived it that way, your eyes flashed red, and you rode that wave.

To use your verbiage, he “shut down” your phrasing, not your opinion.

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False. I used the argument that you don’t have any rated pvp experience in any game mode to state that you do not have the credibility to call anyone a “low rated player”.

You’re entitled to an opinion but that doesn’t make it credible.

People that play rated pvp at higher levels especially arena understand the game much more than people that don’t.

I clearly stated multiple times you’re welcome to your opinion and that I disagree with it.

Sure a short cd kick might be better in random BGs because it’s not organized but in any organized pvp silence will be better in every situation.

You then got mad and not only threw a big fit but also used “gatekeep” wrong while throwing insults.

I literally cannot believe my post is being used as a grounds to argue about PvP.

If Blizzard ever did look at this, you people arguing over such dumb stuff are going to make them scoff and forget I ever asked for Priests to get a kick at all.

I appreciate your initial interaction with my post but come on now. Exchange phone numbers or take it to the PvP forums.

Can’t even make a dang innocent suggestion post on here without people tearing into each other. Thanks a lot.

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If it makes you feel better they actually don’t look at the forums.

Your suggestion also affects pvp.

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Think a class that previously didn’t have a kick being given a kick has massive pvp implications. Pretty reasonable a pvp conversation would emerge from it, however I’d agree the actual conversation that occurred was unfortunate.

To repeat what was said above, if it makes you feel better, there is a 0% chance this forum post would have any impact on blizzard’s decision to give priests a kick, which I can confidently say will never happen

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The issue is that I believe holy and disc are the only two specs of healers that don’t have an interrupt now which is a bit dumb.

It also would give shadow priests a kick and silence which would broken beyond belief.

That’s all well and good, but I’m not a give up kind of person.

I have hope.

I’m not a “give up” person.

I’m a realist

Realism =/ cynicism

Yes. The whole issue I have is that healer Priest is lacking hard in utility.

Also, I guess you didn’t read my post because I said toward the end for Shadow Priest, the kick would be replaced if they chose the “Silence” talent.

Or honestly if that’s too confusing, just put the kick in the Discipline and Holy specific trees.

That’s an easy fix I guess.

Yeah, but have mind control and fear so that’s something. Not sure if holy still has the busted range stun.

Do hpals have a kick now? Melee rebuke?

Idk much about preservation evokers yet. More a “learn by doing” kinda person haha. Do they have a kick?

Do mw’s? (Melee?)

These are genuine questions by the way I’m not being sarcastic. I don’t know.

If anything they could put silence on the same talent choice as a kick, forcing us to choose between a blanket and a kick. I don’t think they will, but I highly doubt if they ever did want to give priests a kick that they’d allow us to have both

Dragonflight is supposed to be the expansion that they actually dig into feedback and listen to the community so I’m just trying, no need to rain on my parade.

So you’re making shadow lose a mandatory talent in the spec tree because of a kick in the class tree.

Makes zero sense.

Yeesh tough crowd.

I’m done. GG. You can have your forum back.

Sorry the internet isn’t an echo chamber praising you for your ideas?

It’s the forums. It’s where people collaborate.

If you want to post an opinion online, you may find people who agree with it, and you may find people who don’t.

Your first time or something? Lol

Nope! But people like you are just insufferable, nickpicky, and offer no constructive ideas to add to the conversation. You come into the forums to rip everyone else’s posts apart and bring others down. I read your reply histories. Also, I think you were teetering on the edge of wanting to call me a snowflake at the end there! Good for you to have avoided that primal urge!

So these will be my last words to you! Hope you enjoy your life and everything :smiley:

I mean, there’s nothing to add, lol. Priests aren’t getting a kick.

I could start a forum thread saying priests should get ice block, but it’s not going to happen.

People are simply going to enter the thread to say “nah”, if anyone replies at all.

I never had an urge to call you “snowflake”. I prefer not to name-call.

I attack ideas, not people, unless the person is belligerently obtuse (or so obviously trolling that call them a troll) at which point I often excuse myself from the conversation.

You putting words in my mouth is easily the rudest thing that’s happened between the two of us. Honestly, I don’t think I was even rude to you in this thread. I simply said your request isn’t going to happen, but then threw in a caveat that, if it ever was going to, the only thing that would make sense is if the kick were mutually exclusive with silence.

Oh hunny I just don’t care anymore. You came into the forum and the first interaction you had with it was inserting yourself into the other two poster’s argument. So what If I wanted to make a hopeful thread or request to Blizzard, even if it never happens. You predicting what anyone might say in this forum “Nah”. or what other positive discourse could have arisen is nothing but conjecture as well. Now the whole forum post is a negative sloppy mess, to which you are partly to blame. I don’t care if you see yourself as a realist, you have zero idea what the game designers are planning or might do. Shooting people down is a very annoying trait and there’s other ways to get your point across than to poke holes in things and offer nothing in return.

K so now this was the last thing I had to say. I’m good now I swear.

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Yes, the argument was absurd, in which an individual took extreme offense because he latched onto “gatekeeping” and derailed the thread as a result.

It’s very odd that you see me as the person responsible or even partially responsible for this.

Right. You made a thread expressing your opinion, and I responded expressing mine. I didn’t attack you in any way. I simply said it isn’t going to happen. The fact you’re so offended over this and throwing a tantrum says a lot more about you than it does me.

Think you should give this thread a re-read if you’re blaming me for that dialogue. All I did in that entire exchange was say “the guy wasn’t gatekeeping you”.

That’s correct, I can’t say with 100% certainty what blizzard is going to do. I am very confident, however, that priests won’t be getting a kick.

You are within your rights to create a “hopeful” thread in which you suggest blizzard give priests a kick, and I am within my rights to comment on it and say it’s not going to happen.

Good talk, bye

Wow this thread took a turn.

The victimism in this thread is astounding. Like dude it’s cool you had an idea but if you can’t handle the discussion on it then it’s probably not a good idea for you to make a post.

The toxicity and playing victim because people countered your idea is pretty sad.

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I wish you nothing but the best. Thanks for stopping by.