So evidently you don’t know what spamming is either then. You literally just revived 5 threads to say the exact same thing.
That is spamming.
Yes, this is a forum. Post a glad stance thread and have a discussion. Fine. Dandy. Happy for you. But don’t make 20 threads about it and necro week/month old threads about the same topic.
So you guys’ only argument is “other classes got stuff back so why can’t we have glad stance back? Because I want glad stance.”?
Had to ignore the troll offering nothing to the conversation. Let’s get this thread back on topic please.
My, somebody is upset aren’t we? The best part is I’m not even the troll here.
commenting on the same thing over and over only to say its spamming is also spamming. Might need to bring up some new arguments to the table.
Why do you hate glad stance so much that you feel the unbridled rage to go in and keep going over and over saying “No” the the high heavens lol. If you hear someone on the street listening to music you dont like do you go over and be like “I hear this on the radio and I hate it stop listening to it Nobody likes this music”?
Isnt the main reasons they cut off glad is because it didnt fit well and that tuning was a nightmare? If they made it a pvp talent for prot it would fit that the talent doesnt fit Proc spec. I know it shouldnt be its own spec as that wouldnt be a nightmare to figure out. But being a pvp talent removes it from the 100 talent spot where it was so it gives prot options plus allows for fun in PvP which isnt the biggest focus for Blizzard as they focus more on Mythic+ and Raids. Wouldnt this fix the 2 main issues as to why it was removed? Other things have been removed for more and brought back. So I wanted to put out I would love to see this return since it was fun.
I think it being a separate spec would be more desirable. It would certainly have to be changed from its previous iteration for it to work.
I still believe what I brought up was a good middleground.
Glad stance as a PvP Talent
This would allow Blizz to ignore the Raiding and Mythic+ aspect of the class. Allowing for stats to not be too big of a deal and tuning wouldnt be a huge concern (other than PvP)
They would restrict some tank cd’s and such as well since one of the main issues in bg’s is that they were very tanky for a class that did dps. Which could be done by some tuning. Sword and Shield is fun lore whise and character wise was a fun time in Wod I would love to see it return as a fun side spec that isnt top end competitive but isnt 100% prot tank in pvp.
the issue with it being a talent is that it removes 1 choice from Prot warriors in PVE. if its a spec then it needs to be balanced with every other spec which is alot of work. I doubt they would put that much work into that. Which is why I think pvp talent is best option.
You’re focusing on balance. Balancing was not the only issue with it. The other issue was that it was a FOTM spec, it got overbuffed, and then overnerfed because it was a balancing nightmare, and then after the nerf, there was maybe a handful of people who even still played it even though it wasn’t good, and it was just a dead talent for actual tanks.
I just don’t see the reason to make 5+ threads about the same thing, when everyone knows it’s not coming back. Same thing for SMF. Make 1 thread, discuss away. Hell I wouldn’t even care if it stayed at the top of the forum. But the problem is alot of threads, alot of pointless arguments for it to return, not alot of demand for it to return, and it isn’t worth the hassle to balance something that so few players really cared about.
your posting on the thread is keeping it going on. I found some posts about glad spec and they might be dead to you but I guess im an old forum user where days doesnt =/ dead to me. I addressed the balancing stuff using other returning spells as a really good example. I used Symbiosis which was removed due to the extensive balancing issue plus the difficulty of tuning every option. The option for tanks I also addressed and said as a PvP talent it wouldnt use that spot on the normal talent tree as a useless option for prot anymore since it would only be used with PvP turned on and selected. There fore it wouldnt need to be tuned for Mythic+/Raiding and it would only be tuning for PvP which isnt a big focus for Blizzard. I would be ok if it wasnt the best spec as it was always meant to be a more gimmicky spec if you had Prot gear but wanted to not just tank in random bg’s. Doesnt this address your concerns?
I feel like it would be interesting to shakeup arms and give them a 2-hander, shield, and 1-hander as equippable slots and the various abilities they use will switch them between the 2-hander and the shield/1-hander.
I think of arms warriors using multiple arms and whatever is available to them. Right now, they’re just using a single 2-hander while fury is running around with two 2-handers. Are arms warriors weak? They need to get some training tips from Bajheera and get swol so they can carry more than 1 weapon. Weaklings.
As someone who only pvp’s casually I would be bummed to not have the option to PvE with gladiator. I understand your concerns for how this would impact protection, which is why I think the best solution would be for it to be its own separate specialization. I do share your concern that perhaps this might be to much work for Blizzard given the current state of some classes at the moment. Maybe this can be a thing later on.
I’ll get behind this. Arms used to be looked at as a sort of weaponmaster spec because of the specializations it had. You could play off it by having it swap weapons/stances and building the rotation around that.
What was the reasoning to remove gladiator to begin with?
Can’t have a tank with DPS dps and can’t have a DPS that can tank, it’s pretty obvious why glad isn’t in the game, it’s either a tank that deals too much damage and makes every other tank obsolete, or it’s a DPS that’s far more durable than other DPS and that’s also unbalanced, you also have the third route of its able to do both but is significantly weaker in both regards but then what’s the point point of having a tank that cannot tank or a dps that cannot dps.
I love the look of a sword and shield and prefer dps. I wouldn’t mind seeing an option allowing Arms to dps competitively with a sword and shield or even just transmog a sword and shield over their two-hander for aesthetics, nor would I mind a 4th spec for this style of gameplay. That said, I don’t think adding gladiator stance back the way it was in WoD would be the right way to go about achieving that goal.
So take defensive stance and start asking them to allow you to transmog the shield and get rid of the stupid swirly purple shield animation.
That’s alot more likely than them adding glad stance.
Would that work?
You clearly never played it because this is not how it worked. As soon as you took the Gladiator talent, you were no longer a tank. You lost all the things that made you a tank (extra hp, boost to block, more threat etc…) and gained abilities to make you a dps (more dmg on shield bash, synergy with shield bash and your other abilities doing more dmg, etc…). You could off tank for a small amount of time, just like some other dps classes can, but you would not be a main tank or an off tank for more than an oh crap moment.
That would honestly suit my purposes just as well, though obviously I can’t speak for the others who really like the Prot gameplay but want to dps with it.
Showing support for sword & board dps.
Don’t care if it is:
~gladiator stance
~4th spec
~arms has options to do competitive dps this way
~other
Based rouge poster.
We all want sword and board DPS.
This forum is literally the only place I’ve ever heard such a desire expressed.