Think about it please
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As someone who has been actively using Snowdrift (with the lack of better unbreakable crowd control effects) - for Arcane and Fire I would rather they make Gravity Lapse stun all or at least primary target in PVP (it was changed to a stun in PVE in 11.0.5). Snowdrift is just a design mess - you as a squishy ranged class need to run into melee range and stay in it to proc it and it is even more hilarious if enemy is ranged and kites you to prevent that (like Hunters). Ranged classes need proper ranged tools and since Arcane and Fire are squishier than Frost and sacrifice Dragon’s Breath for Gravity Lapse they should in return get proper value from it.
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Even as a stun… 3 second stun is so meh, by the time you can cast into the stun you have < 2 seconds left
I can agree that duration is not long, but with decent amount of Haste it still can be used to cast needed spell like Arcane Surge for Arcane or Ring of Fire for Fire or follow it with Polymorph (if timed properly to finish casting after damage occurs), so would be useful. Biggest advantage over Snowdrift would be not requiring to mess your positioning to use it offensively and not get into / stay in melee range which can end badly for both Fire and Arcane, especially in instanced PVP where there can be multiple PVP enemies that attack you simultaneously and can kill you / force defensives before stun even occurs.
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The sad truth is mages need a stun. Bring back Deep Freeze for all specs.
Frost can have the added benefit of using it off of FoF procs.
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Fire and arcane have a stun a better one at that
In PVP because snowdrift is a pvp talent? What spell are you talking about that is better that fire\arcane mages use in pvp currently?
Because the best PVP specs used by the top 5000 players fire\arcane dont use it at all.
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all sunfury mages and you dont even need a pvp talent for it
There are basically no sunfury fire mages in pvp at all because its a weak spec, also its not a stun it acts like a root you can still cast. If you go onto any leaderboard and look at any PVP mage not speced for PVE you will see they are 80% of the time frost fire because it just does more damage and provides you with more defensives and secondary stats\damage.
Its a stun in 3 days and a bunch of other buffs learn some stuff im 38th in the world
All mage specs need a stun for PvP. I would gladly give up DB and BW too, for a reliable 4 second stun.
Maybe my patch notes i found is out of date?
Sunfury
- Gravity Lapse target cap increased to 8 targets (was 5) and Gravity Lapse now stuns instead of rooting.
- Gravity Lapse now roots instead of stunning in PvP only.
Thats like a month ago Tuesday its a stun
It’s a root in PvP, not a stun.
You’re 38th in the world for what, being incapable of reading?
Fire needs a new spell -
Impact - When activated, your next pyroblast stuns the target for 4 seconds. 1 minute cooldown.
Arcane needs Supernova baseline and gravity lapse should be ADDED to their toolkit as a stun for 3 seconds.
Fire and arcane need a disarm basically.
Imagine being able to disarm a hunter?
Hunter would still absolutely destroy fire and arcane but it would help