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belf dude faces lack a lot of detail and just look friendly to me, despite this specific face intending to not be remotely friendly.
There never was a valid reason not too
Archbishop Faol is with the Forsaken now…it’s only a matter of time before dude is appointing some Forsaken Paladins. At least, I would find it hilarious if the man that started the Paladin order in life, continued in death.
For undead, sure, but that doesn’t explain why everybody wants paladins. Is it just for mechanics reasons?
Fair question. I think the Knight in Shining Armor is a popular trope and one that only gets more interesting when the knight is an alien in crystal power armor or tusked Aztec in gold armor who’s noble steed is a dinosaur.
Also it’s more or less a solid class. I cant remember an expansion or patch where at least one Paladin spec wasn’t at least A tier for competitive PvE and PvP. Shaman on the otherhand I could best describe as “long suffering”.
And as for Druid. Well it’s annoying to work hard on a transmog you’ll rarely see as most of your time is spent looking at a cat or moonkin.
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can’t/won’t speak for everyone, but imo there’s nothing more noble than self sacrifice – and that’s what forsaken paladins would be doing.
Depends on how grimdarky they wanna go with it. Personally I’ve never bothered with the Light hurting undead thingy. Because it’s lore is from a Ask A Dev question that I’m reasonably confident was thought up on the spot.
But either way they take it I’d still make the Forsaken Paladins come from the Scarlet Risen. Figure you could have Voss free them and with both them and the overdressed rightful owner of the overdecorated chair being undead what else are knights of the realm supposed to do but swear fealty to the Forsaken.
The Forsaken of course are no strangers to cackling lunatics but they haven’t had much in the way of frothing fanatics before. Figure you could call them Twilight Templars or Dusk Knights or w/e.
I’m just picturing something like a Chadwick Paxton squads and there’s one completely self serious Paladin rambling like this;
But it comes off as barely audible muffled yelling because the rest of the crew got sick of his ceaseless proselytizing so they sound proofed his helmet then welded it to the chest plate.
If they acknowledge that Dream energies are innately destructive to undead creatures sure. Have them be handicapped by their undeath and unable to use the full power of nature without destroying themselves. After all, decay is natural. There’s nothing evil in it, it’s beautiful, it’s always been a part of how the Druids perceive nature. Death has been a part of druid lore since 2001. Decay is what swallows the dead, sets them back to square one and makes life from them.
My understanding is it wasn’t harmful persay but just inaccessible. You’re outside the cirrrrrcle of life so the magic doesn’t take.
Sort of like a water elemental trying to pick up fire. It’s just not going to work.
Which is why I had them using specifically plague ecology which in Azeroth manifests as fungi. Both in the Plaguelands and Maldraxxus itself. As that appears to be parts of the natural world that has itself become undead in it’s own way.
Also side note but man how lame is it we never learned WTF Maldraxxus is. It’s refered to as the Maldraxxus which makes it sound more like an object or being than a place. It appears to be growing hair and boils and mushrooms so, sorta figured that was hinting at something.
We have at least one instance in Wrath of the Lich King demonstrating that emerald dream energy, just in passive radiation from places tied to the Dream, outright kills the Undead. Forsaken were an exception, but HOW is never explained. It is said the ‘ones redeemed by sylvannas’ aren’t harmed by it, but Sylvannas didn’t really… do anything magical to the Undead to make them different creatures than scourge undead. So more than likely, the Dragons just are changing how the energy works to not kill them.
Granted I think that highlights a bigger issue in the consistency of Undead. Their evil crap gets swept under the rug all the time for this current narrative, but blizz also seems to go back and forth on the nature of their undeath? What kind of undead or level of undead the player Forsaken are, their emotional capacities, etc.
I think it’s more likely because with the exception of Lichs sapient undead still have their souls. Imperfectly attached but it’s still there.
Whereas mindless undead tend to either have souls trapped inside them or are just mindless, murderous animated flesh and bone.
However, we do know Liches are among the Undead who die when entering or are weakened by items connected to it.
True but they are technically soulless. They more have soul wifi. Their sapience is beamed to them from the phylactery which keeps it safe and sound, hence why they regenerate by it should you destroy them.
What truly never makes sense is why every Lich keeps theirs in their pocket like it’s a crumpled McDonald’s receipt.
Personally if I were a Lich on Azeroth I’d hide mine under some random stone on the Exodar. It’s the last place you’d think to look and more importantly no one ever goes there.
Everyone forgot there was a Naaru down there for like, 9 years between TBC and Legion lol.
I would say though that given the Undead’s connection to their body itself isn’t even really oriented like a living persons, theres really not that much that should give them a defense over normal undead.
To be fair this lore also made it p clear stuff like blight is pretty much null against dream energies, hence why they can only really store it in stuff made of green dragon tears. Which blizz totally does not wanna think about, otherwise blight wouldn’t work on nature spirits in Darkshore and such, cause they can just radiate the stuff too.
Another instance of lore tied to the Night Elves way, way too powerful for them to actually make it relevant when it matters.
Really any 9th class would do. I’m one away for having an undead in every square of the alignment chart.
I’ve my L, N & C Good Mage, Warrior and Priest.
L, N & C Neutral Rogue, Hunter and Warlock.
But only a N & C Evil DK and Monk.
Could really use a Lawful Evil undead Paladin to complete the chart.
It certainly is that way in D&D /Pathfinder there’s a contingent that wants Paladins for EVERY god, even the chaotic and evil ones.
A evil paladin….wouldn’t that make them just a different flavor of Blackguard or Death Knight?
(I forget what DnD calls Paladins who loose their Good alignment)
Bold of you to assume they would be evil.
But
::He would gesture to the scarlet crusade::
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Oh I know. But DnD has different rules for Paladins who loose their Good Alignment. They become a different class, I just forgot what they were called
In 5e a paladin remains a paladin, but sometimes becomes an oathbreaker. sometimes they don’t. oaths can be real specific. like…
I vow to kill vampires.
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