Gilneas is likely not Alliance-controlled

An insider who is also a friend of one of my friends managed to talk to Christie Golden and asked her about the current status of Gilneas during Blizzcon, and this is what she said on the matter.

Gilneas is held by mostly Forsaken Refugees from Lordaeron, but you would have to ask the game team, that’s just my opinion


Now obviously I'm aware of the fact that the mission boards show that Gilneas is actually under the Alliance hands, but given that it was not used as a staging ground to mount an attack on Lordaeron and the Alliance had to attack it by sea, coupled with how nothing else in the game hints Alliance control of it, I think it's safe to say that there is a likelihood that there's a disconnect between the story and the game team on what the real status of it is. Then you also get into how nothing involving the warfront mentions anything about the Alliance controlling Gilneas either.

Worst case scenario is the Alliance have never actually taken it and it really is occupied by the Horde, perhaps likely even used as the Forsaken's new homeland after gassing Lordaeron.

Best case scenario is this could perhaps be setup for the Worgen heritage armor quest-line that gives Worgen fans a return to Gilneas with solid gameplay motivation for taking it back, as them just reclaiming Gilneas off-screen with nothing reflected in the actual game is simply a boring turnabout to something many players are hoping for.
11/04/2018 04:52 PMPosted by Rendford
Best case scenario is this could perhaps be setup for the Worgen heritage armor quest-line that gives Worgen fans a return to Gilneas with solid gameplay motivation for taking it back, as them just reclaiming Gilneas off-screen with nothing reflected in the actual game is simply a boring turnabout to something many players are hoping for.


That's be pretty cool. I imagine they'll tear off the scalps of the Forsaken to get their Top-hats back.
I dont understand how the forsaken are still in Gilneas, lol.

Is that an oversight?
11/04/2018 05:03 PMPosted by Verlius
I dont understand how the forsaken are still in Gilneas, lol.

Is that an oversight?


This is the same person who thought Worgens had tails.
but you would have to ask the game team, that’s just my opinion
oh im sure to take this at face value
Yeah well my uncle works for Blizzard and he said that the forsaken are going to steal Stormwind. My anecdote is bigger than yours.
11/04/2018 05:13 PMPosted by Yersynia
Yeah well my uncle works for Blizzard and he said that the forsaken are going to steal Stormwind. My anecdote is bigger than yours.


Wait... you don't think this expansion will end in a Siege of Stormwind despite all the foreshadowing to exactly that?
I'll confirm it. One of our Discord members was at BlizzCon and met with Christie Golden while she was signing books. After finding this out, I asked him if he could ask her about what is going on with Gilneas since according to her book, Gilneas is under the control of the Forsaken, which is at odds with the ending of SoO that said that the Alliance was in Gilneas trying to cure the Blight. So he had his friend ask her and this is what was relayed to me:

So she prefaced it saying she doesn’t know what the in game team has right now
But as far as she knows Gilneas is Forsaken controlled for the most part
With refugees from Lordaeron having flooded down there
So it’s not really a military control but tons of refugees? My friend didn’t follow up


Refugees in this case are Forsaken, and not human refugees
11/04/2018 05:20 PMPosted by Cryptkeeps
11/04/2018 05:13 PMPosted by Yersynia
Yeah well my uncle works for Blizzard and he said that the forsaken are going to steal Stormwind. My anecdote is bigger than yours.


Wait... you don't think this expansion will end in a Siege of Stormwind despite all the foreshadowing to exactly that?


What foreshadowing?
11/04/2018 05:13 PMPosted by Yersynia
Yeah well my uncle works for Blizzard and he said that the forsaken are going to steal Stormwind. My anecdote is bigger than yours.


My dad is the Vice President of blizzard and said that Azeroth is actually Kerrigan and Sargeras is Diablo.
11/04/2018 05:37 PMPosted by Sigmar
11/04/2018 05:13 PMPosted by Yersynia
Yeah well my uncle works for Blizzard and he said that the forsaken are going to steal Stormwind. My anecdote is bigger than yours.


My dad is the Vice President of blizzard and said that Azeroth is actually Kerrigan and Sargeras is Diablo.


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I thought Gilneas was in Forsaken hands, but there was guerilla warfare being conducted by the Bloodfang? or Gilean Liberation Front or somesuch.
Meaning the Forsaken do not have full control or security there.
11/04/2018 05:35 PMPosted by Yersynia
What foreshadowing?


That is something that I'll save for a different thread and not here.

Suffice to say you can take or leave the OP, but there are solid grounds to thinking the Alliance don't actually control it, given Blizzard's habit with saying the Alliance win and then saying they're actually not winning like the recent Saurfang cinematic just did, or how there are still Gilnean refugees in Stormwind bringing up how they wish to return to their homeland, something they wouldn't be doing if the Alliance really do have control of it.

Fact of the matter is, the mission table is of very dubious canonicity and regardless of what it implies it still ought to be taken with grains of salt. (Especially with how Blizzard has made the concept of mission tables even more irrelevant to this expansion than they've done in the past.)
I guess everyone is destined to become refugees in Borewind.

Goodbye, cool Victorian artwork.
11/04/2018 05:37 PMPosted by Sigmar
11/04/2018 05:13 PMPosted by Yersynia
Yeah well my uncle works for Blizzard and he said that the forsaken are going to steal Stormwind. My anecdote is bigger than yours.


My dad is the Vice President of blizzard and said that Azeroth is actually Kerrigan and Sargeras is Diablo.
oh yeah? well my friend has a friend who has an uncle who has friend who has a brother who has an uncle who has a son who has stepfather who has cousin twice removed who has a nanny who works for blizzard and she says that the expansion ends with everyone doing the hokey pokey
11/04/2018 04:52 PMPosted by Rendford
Gilneas is held by mostly Forsaken Refugees from Lordaeron, but you would have to ask the game team, that’s just my opinion


https://tenor.com/view/what-you-talking-gif-7358150
Didn't the guerillas and Crowley retake it in Silverpine questing? The zone ended with a prisoner exchange and ceasefire with the border being at the Wall/the swamp outside the wall. Was it mentioned being retaken by the Forsaken at some point?
CEO of blizzard here, Kael'thas brother Thael'thas will reclaim the throne of Silvermoon and join the alliance, every horde blood elf will be banned and that's how the expansion ends
Just goes to show how garbage the Siege of Lordaeran was. Where Blizzard implied that the Alliance and Horde had greater control of their respective continents.. The Alliance actually don't control anything up north.