Recently I did it as I went back to my worgen specifically my Druid and I liked it sort of My positives I think are as followed
•Retread of the Worgen Curse
•Tess Graymane Developments.
•Heritage Armor
Now the Negatives.
-Genn not being that involved in this questline.
-Nathanos being Shoved in (He wasn’t at the battle of gilneas)
-No character development for Genn.
-No new developments.
Honestly I am pretty alright with it but to be honest i feel like lorewise it should of delved more into the history of gilneas then just the rehash of the worgen curse. I really love the gilneas storyline and the people and characters but we really need to move on with the worgen always struggling with internal rage I was hoping the heritage armor questline would provide something new for worgen but it’s just a rehash with Tess being a worgen. Granted at least she got development but this quest line should of given development to all of gilneas not the graymane family we should of seen characters from gilneas starting zone. Overall it was niche nice but could of been better.
Wanting to strip the tension and struggle out of the Worgen ia a disservice to the people who sought out Worgen as player characters. It is the same as trying to humanize and rehabilitate the Forsaken. It is the same as stripping out the desperation of the sin’dorei by giving back the Sunwell. The end result is a blander, less interesting devolution.
That’s true but on the other hand this is getting stale. The entire point of questline was coming to terms with the worgen curse. By questline I mean intro storyline
The Worgen heritage questline was a huge disappointment for me. While I understand that they are humans battling a curse, I was really hoping they’d lean more into embracing it as a cultural integration rather than focusing on the humanity of Gilneas. Maybe making the curse some sort of right of passage or something for those who wish to undertake the transformation.
I don’t think too many people pick a badass werewolf character and think ‘Nice, a human who can turn into a wolf!’ People play Worgen BECAUSE they are Worgen, not because they are Gilneans who HAPPEN to be Worgen.
I get what they were getting at, but it’s just another abysmal example of the Alliance being just different shades of human.
I do agree with you though, it was nice to see some of the spotlight on Tess. However, I’d be lying if I didn’t wish she went full Worgen so we’d get some bombastic glow-up wolf assassin situation. I did like seeing Goldrinn as well!
If you rolled a Gilnean I guess it would be fine, but people specifically rolled a worgen. Worgen need to split off from Gilneas. Give them a heritage questline retaking Gilneas on their own terms, establishing their own institutions and getting in touch with their primal roots. Leave the Gineans in Darkshore with night elves.
I disagree. Aside from perhaps a few that managed to be outside of Gilneas before the events of Cataclysm, it should be cannon that all Gilneans are now Worgen. The beast should be hard enough for the average person to control that the curse continued to spread. Our future queens should definitely be good girls.
I agree with izhkarl. The worgen definitely need to break off from gilneas and blizz needs to allow them to be their own thing. The whole human potential nonsense is what’s holding them back from being a great race to play
If anything, any handicaps the race has only make it fair for the rest of the races. It’s objectively the best, with the most interesting history, the best architecture, tragic backstory, moral high-ground, troubled past, dark-side. They get a transformation animation that is one of the coolest effects in the game. They get a mount that is literally just running. They can skin faster than anyone in a game where almost every class wears leather and scale. Yes, there are some racials that need nerfed which keep worgen from fitting into the meta, but they get a free sprint.
I dont think there is anything holding them back from being great. I do think the heritage quest sucked, but I dont want Worgen to be separated from Gilneas, while I do want Gilneas separated from humanity.
Having played several Human and Non-Human characters I don’t get where you’re coming from on this. The Human starting experience isnt’ qualitatively less or greater than the Night Elf, Orc, Tauren, Draenei, Gnome, or any of the others that I’ve started out. The non-Humans aren’t thwarted or lessened by the “Human Potential” trauma that seems to afflict this subforum. Nor are the Humans boosted by it. Everyone pretty starts out as the Hero (or Anti-Hero in some cases) in training.
There’s certainly NO difference in races when you’re starting as one of the Hero Classes i.e. Death Knight or Demon Hunter.
A major part of the Gilnean identity is that they ARE former Humans, just like the Forsaken. It’s that Humanity which keeps them from being raving animals just as it keeps the Forsaken from being mindless undead.
All Gilneans aren’t worgen though. The future queen is human. The playable Gilnean (Worgen) narrative is subservient to the non playable (human) narrative.
Gilneans also aren’t the only worgen. There is apparently a ‘considerable’ force of south shore worgen, the Bloodfang pack who are to my knowledge feral and infectious. Then there are Northrend worgen who haven’t been touched upon.
The Godfrey factor. If Godfrey and his cohorts are anything to go by, Gilnean society has a powerful elite who would like nothing better than to purge the worgen element from their society, or at the least have them locked away in kennels where they can do no harm.
Someone can correct me on this, but the whole ‘human potential’ argument is based around the Alliance races tending to fall under human washing regardless of race. The starting zones are certainly not the issue, it’s moreso the greater narrative that lumps all of the varied races under the ‘High King’ to be one unified Alliance which really washes out their potential to shine on their own.
We see this especially with Worgen because they are from a human kingdom, so Blizzard leans heavily on their humanism instead of actually taking advantage of the uniqueness that is Worgen as what they are presented to be which is a werewolf race. Even Genn Greymane is rarely in Worgen form despite being their racial representative. They also doubled down on this with the heritage questline showing that Tess didn’t need to be Worgen to be Gilnean which was disappointing to say the least.
I can speak as a player and lover of Worgen that I chose one BECAUSE they are a werewolf and I can imagine other people also pick the werewolf because they want to be just that. Not so they can ‘find their humanity’ and become another unfortunate victim of gold, white and blue under the homogenous Alliance banner.
Thanks for understanding where I and others are coming from on this issue. It’s sad that so many people are still choosing to ignore the problem as if it doesn’t exist.
The Gilneans are NOT a culture of werewolves. Up until then, those Gilneans who became worgen became animalistic predators and were a rare, but dangerous minority. Gilneans through the RTS were Humans even participating in the Second War as part of the Alliance until they literally walled themselves off from it. (and from their own ciitzens who were caught on the other side.)
Not any more so than Horde races up until now were united under a War Chief.
People like myself, who picked the worgen picked them to be literally just that, after blizz told us that the worgen would be a counter to the orcs with their whole blood and honor.
Literally no one picked a worgen to play a human with a skin condition
