So I’m trying to RP a Gilnean and Kul Tiran simultaneously (they’re both undead of course, I’m not a savage)
And is there any hard lore on what their differences on culture and accents there are? Because I’ve nothing to go on despite really pouring over what in game dialects are avalible.
My current is hypothesis is my Gilnean should sound like;
And my Kul Tiran should sound like;
Im writing a former Gilnean stable girl and Kul Tiran marine respectively so I think I’m on the money.
All we know is that Kul Tiran human settlements were a diaspora of Gilnean humans
We can thus theorize that Kul Tiran worship of the Light is born of Gilnean Light worship practices, and that the Kul Tiran Drust Witches and Thornspeaker Druidry could have intersections with Gilnean Harvest Witches.
And likewise if Gilneas does it, generally speaking there’s a high chance the cultural practice could’ve survived into Kul Tiran culture.
You care more about the nuances in the game’s accents than Blizzard does.
Nah, this isn’t that kind of game.
Edit: Deleted duplicate post below.
It’s more than a little wonky because Blizzard didn’t actually nail down a decent timeline and what we have is not really conducive to cultural development. What I mean by that is currently, the Arathi Empire was founded 2700 years ago, which is when all the disparate human tribes and clans around that general area were assimilated into the general Arathorian culture because Thoradin asked nicely and not for any other reason.
However…
Drustvar quests state that the first Kul Tiran settlers fought the Drust 2600 years ago. Which means that if we use those two dates, you’d need to assume the empire made a colony in Gilneas, that colony developed its own culture, and then became independent and skipped off to found its own colony in… about a century.
This is, of course, very dumb.
Of course if we assume the writers communicate with complex charades and smoke signals while concussed and thus the 2600 number was a mistake, we can probably go with a short while after the introduction of the Light to humanity as a way to judge when Kul Tiras was founded and eventually broke away.
Culturally the biggest differences are religion. The Light barely has a foothold in Kul Tiras, especially since they left the Alliance (though we can assume there’s a resurgence now that they’re rejoined). It has the strongest influence in Drustvar, and you can find the grave of a paladin there, likely because that’s where the witches historically were, and blasting them with holy magic works wonders. In WC3, there are also Kul Tiran paladins with Daelin Proudmoore. But by and large, the Tide Faith holds the greatest sway over the bulk of the nation.
Harvest Witches and Thornspeakers share superficial similarities, but the latter are much stronger than the Harvest Witches were shown to be before they were given a big boost by way of a forcible Emerald Dream connection via affliction. Since Thornspeakers learned from Drust, and Drust are/were Vrykul, we can assume they have the same roots (pun intended), but the Harvest Witches diverged when introduced to Cenarion Druidism, which the Thornspeakers do not use.
To sum up more succinctly, from what I’ve seen from sources like Hearthstone (such as the Witchwood expansion), Gilneas and Drustvar are the closest, culturally and environmentally, with the former just more industrialized.
Accents I have no clue, Blizzard can’t even decide what accents Night Elves have, let alone the maelstrom that is deciphering the dozens of English dialects.
There’s a separation between the two of what, 2000 years? There’s probably some cross-pollination but with such an enormous length of time you’d expect they don’t have all that much in common anymore.
I hope Blizzard stops ultimately putting every druidic tradition under the authority of the Cenarion Circle. The Cenarion Circle shouldn’t be such a pan-druidic hub, since Cenarian druidism isn’t a neutral, universal take on druidism : its worship practices and aesthetics are very specific. Seriously, druid narratives feel like Kaldorei narratives ; every time I interact with the Cenarion Circle I get lamed out because I’m just not big on Kaldorei aesthetics and culture. Troll druids, Drust druids and Harvest Witches should never be about playful fawns and fantasy-looking plants. I had exactly the same feeling about Ardenweald.
Back to the topic… A Kul Tiran take on the Light, if any, should obviously be vastly different from the one you’d find among mainland Human societies. Also don’t forget about the worship of the Tidemother !!!
And honestly, this is bad for Kaldorei narratives too. Because as a nelf main, I don’t feel represented by the Cenarian Circle, yet they dominate the Kaldorei narrative.
When nelf RP should be a bunch of muscle babes tripping throats out with their teeth in the name of their Moon Goddess. Instead I am often helping some bearded hippie pull some weeds. And even that is shared with humans and Horde races who don’t want to be there anymore than I do.
Um, why would you bring up the Cenarion Circle? Did Kultirans join it? There was a datamined murder mystery scenario where Thisalee Crow and Arthur Tradewind (a Kul Tiran Druid who is meant to sound a bit silly) worked together to solver the mystery of a dead bunny in the Dreamgrove, but that never made it to live. They were probably planning to ship them together.
I’d honestly take a full CSI: Narnia expansion pack.
Oh god no. They did the whole CSI nonsense in westfall and it was horrible
Gilnean culture involves far more scent marking, social grooming, and displaying teeth as a sign of dominance. True, these are all recent additions to Gilnean culture, but differences nonetheless.
I meant more magical detective stuff. Not the endless parade of tv and film references that are SW content.
The Sylvanas novel has that bit about how Farstriders investigate a death scene and I wish we got more stuff like that.
I honestly don’t. It’s boring. I play a hunter to kill stuff, not play Captain Micah, dead bunny detective
I’m 100% willing to believe this. How could it be pleasant to have your race’s identity diluted so badly ? Not sure how people who liked WC3 Kaldorei are feeling about what defines the race currently.
They may not have been given the occasion yet, but unfortunately I think KT Druids are doomed to join the Circle eventually, since it is the organisation that’s at the base of the druid player experience and narratives. The writers tied their own hands in Legion with the Order Hall thing. If they’re planning to keep using that system, and it does seem to be the case, then class identity will forever remain centralized.
I’m still really curious why Braun and Barov have German and Russian accents. Because I’ll be insisting Alteraci are krauts even if they tell me to my face I’m wrong. Also made an undead ice mage named Anastasia Morozov so it’d be great if they could get back to me on who beyond the Draenei are Slavs.
Always thought it was a shame the Frost Trolls weren’t. They just look like they’d not look out of place wearing a ushanka.
I’m so dumb. I’m picturing this chick as the quintessential peasant chick who was thrown to the wolves by dudes in tophats and I’m obsessed with getting her this Defiler tabard matching green mog.
Then all of a sudden it hits me, I’m barking up the wrong accent tree entirely;
