I play casually when it comes to frequency, i played basically 20 bg blitz so far and my conquest points are like 1300.
I’m not really having a performance problem by just using honor gear, i’m doing fine… mostly i want the cosmetics and 4 tier set.
But the way is designed it feels like i need to play pvp fulltime for hours and hours every day… and i don’t enjoy that, i wanna play at my own pace.
With the same pace i can gear on raids just fine on a healthy time spam, as for pvp I can’t even buy a damn weapon yet!
when blizzard took the weekly chest, they said something like making us earn conquest faster to compensate… the buff they gaved is horrible.
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It’s best you get your conquest from a variety of sources. Daily wins, weekly quests, warmode crate drops, etc. You can reach cap fairly quickly doing it like this.
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If you’re at cap then the weekly amount you need is pretty easy. But catching up to the cap on alts does take forever.
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Blitz could use a boost in conquest for wins. For the amount of time most matches take, it doesn’t give enough on a win.
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The weekly quests were arena related this week. I wish they would change that because it’s only a select band of people that play the arena. I was in WG and there was no quest to get conquest if you win or kill a number of horde, there was no quest like last expansion as you entered a BG Blitz for the first time in the week. It stinks.
They took away the vault, and it was supposed to be a better system. It’s not. What did they give us in return? I agree with you, it’s slow as molasses. I’m in a 13-minute estimated queue for Blitz, and I’m beginning to think this is not worth it anymore. If I lose, it’s another long wait.
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I was just going to make this exact same thread. I have my 5th alt up to 80 and now that we are this far into the season, it seems almost insurmountable to get my 5K + conquest.
I have been playing 3-4 hours and have 340 conquest.
While leveling, not a single WPvP crate gave me conquest. The WPVP quest for bloddy tokens also did not give me any conquest. Korrak’s (an essentially never ending BG) gives 48 conquest. 48!
Queuing up for rated feels bad when you are essentially a free kill to everyone.
Capping on one character is fast if you have kept up all season. Starting fresh on a new character feels rough with a capital R.
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I wish they would change the PvP weekly quest to be like the PvE one where you get to choose which quest you want to do for the week.
This way no matter which PvP mode you prefer you would always have a weekly quest you can do.
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This would be a nice QoL change - and it probably wouldn’t be that hard to implement, either.
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Bgs are a terrible way to get conq
I capped my lizard in one 2v2 sesh with a buddy. Literally 0-4600.
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How badly does a full honor gear lose to a full conquest gear?
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I wish conquest grating wins was awarding more, and I’m conquest capped. If I started playing a honor gear only character, with my limited weekly gametime it would probably take a month to catch up if I still capped my main weekly.
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Id like to see wins after the first increased to at least half. From memory its 125 conq for epics atm and 30 after? it should be at least 65/70 conq after the first win of the day
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Put some effort into it and you’ll achieve it. Not everything should be handed to you cause you wanna be a casual.
Play in your honor gear if you don’t wanna put in effort.
Sick of people trying to take away the grind for pvp because they want gear handed to them.
stop trying to ruin pvp even more than it already is.
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Because gearing alts is a pain when its 5k+ catch up and you get 30 conq per win after daily win. Its still grinding gear just not at snails pace. You can afk in a zone and get 60 conq as Alliance every 10-20 min from wpvp crates depending on activity. Why should that be more rewarding than actually participating in PvP? That is handing people gear not increasing the reward for winning.
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what i love about this game is that you have a large range of people from all skill levels to their gear that they have. Feeling left behind and having to feel the need to “catch up” is moot imo because of that. There is plenty of time in S1 to gear a char(s) and get what you want. You’d be surprised how far you can go with just honor gear in rated if you know what you’re doing, which means more conq points.
I feel like pvp doesnt have near as much to do in pve, which is why they keep it at a snails pace. Taking away and making the grind easier just makes it dumbed down and i dont like it.
not sure why the faction balance is so off in world pvp. i guess partly because of racials? idk.
depends on the type of pvp you’re doing. like i said, snag an honor set which is very easy to accomplish. throw some cheap chants on it to help out a lil, and jump str8 into rated. the conquest will flow with effort. meanwhile you have the dailies/weeklies etc…
faction imbalance is a whole other can of worms quite frankly.
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Conquest catchup is definitely verrrrry slow and needs some QOL updates.
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Do 2v2s.
Qs are instant and you get 88 conq per match.
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Yes they clearly need to start adding catch up for alts. It’s bit too slow currently.
Capping your Honor out to 15k is pretty easy & regular… Why can’t they just let you buy Conquest with your extra Honor? Say 2500H gets you 250C - I think that would make the grind a little better for casuals and help make losing streaks for under geared/beginners a little more bearable… at least then, even though you’re getting losses you’re still making progress twards Conquest Gear
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Agree that it is too slow atm for alts or anybody starting up a fresh cap.
Funny enough, the semi passive sources easily cap a main / current character, but they sputter out almost immediately after. Imo, first win of the day values could be kept in place across the board, especially for skirms. This would help alts that arent ready for rated content pick away at it.
beyond that, solo queues conq gain is too low considering the queue time.
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