lol! all of us regulars are going to get gone from the general discussion shuffle players taking over the arena forums.
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What happens when you have a shadow priest and a disc priest in the game? 
And before you say kick both .5 second casts Iāll stop you right there. Most of the 1400-2.4k bracket doesnāt just ākickā a half second cast. When it happens itās like āHOLY CRAP I ACTUALLY KICKED ITāā¦but itās not often that works with the Improved MD talent.
Then you win if you can survive longer than 30 seconds because the disc went OOM.
The team doesnāt need 30 secs to kill a ret with no bubble 
I actually canāt even imagine a disc/shadow/DH into a ret. That would actually be unwinnable.
Iāll never switch out from DH or WW as Dps. Iād rather die in a stun combo than being perma slowed/rooted by a mage or any other caster.
Also just FYI I donāt agree with the poster on getting rid of MDā¦Iām more on the line of removing the Improved MD talent completely. Priests donāt need this, it really does nothing for them in PvP besides grief pallies and Hunter traps.
No, you are not able to act like youāre good for locking out a slow-as-hell cast of MD or instantly topping yourself with WOG after the bubble is used. Now paladins sometimes actually die if they get MD. Also, nearly every dome I ever use is knocked by something vs some stupid melee class so how is counting your defenses any different?
You literally just posted a video of you insta killing a Ret after casting an .5 second MDā¦lol you are basically proving most people advocating for the removal of the instant MD talent with this video.
Unless youāre also advocating for the removal of the instant MD talent? Then if thatās the case glad to have you onboard soldier.
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I think mass dispel and shattering throw are kind of outdated designs. They were made to counter mostly ice block because mages were completely busted in Vanilla, BC, and Wrath. I think they added it in wrath when paladins were also super strong so they wanted to add a move to counter bubble.
Nope just showing u that pre-Mding still exists since thatās what you claimed.
Pre-Mding is great, Iām all for Pre-Mdingā¦just not Pre-Mding a .3 sec cast MD. There really is no reason for a priest to have this talent at all. It wonāt hurt Priest gameplay to remove the Improved MD talent. Like I said before most priests use it to just grief ret pallies and Hunterās only form of CC.
Oh and FYI Buff Discā¦just saying I want you priest HEALERS to get more love.
So what. Fast MD existed for more expansions than it hasnāt. Use your bubble earlier to snipe damage or stop MD (many people Iāve played against CC b4 its used or some can also kick it).
One of the most common ways of getting fast MD is to Mind games low then pre-cast the Mind Games, if your partner cant heal you and you find yourself in this scenario as I just said snipe damage and heal yourself b4 you get run over. Fast MD is very crucial at the moment to how healer priest is played in several scenarios other than MDāing paladins by the way.
Can you paladins just stop crying ret is a noob-friendly one-dimensional scrub class (its the BM hunter of melee classes or the Annie of LOL) you are supposed to do dumb damage simple damage and nothing else because that is what you are.
What melee isnāt right now? Arms zugzug, Fury zugzug, Ret zugzug, UHDK zugzug, DH(zuggiest of zugzugs). There isnāt much difference in these classes since they just press W 150% of the game.
I guess Monk isnāt as zug because atleast they need to port out when they are getting exploded inbetween their explosions.
Ride or die wings and kill or sook on the forums for everything that counters us to get nerfed.
What is sook?
Oh ret in its current (like current as in 1 day) is a monstrosity. The damage and high hitting abilities need to be gutted immediately. WoG healing should be buffed to reflect current HP pools as well. Really though if WoG healing was back to what it was in Shadowlands then Improved MD is solid and shouldnāt be removed.
improved md is cringe but not rlly for the removal of bubble and not for healing priests rlly it is stoppable but yes i agree ājust kick itā is hilarious
should be removed from sps 100%
regular md is fine and anyone who wants to remove it is fried
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This is the argument I see 99% of the time when people tell me it shouldnāt be removed.
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my absolute favorite was when i complained abt this in SL with every sp gamer abusing WPS was like
ājust kick itā
ya man lemme do that while im speared with void volley rnging me all around with their highly skilled non dr micro cc roleplaying as an earth ele stun (bonus points if their rsham was also an earth ele leggo user)
while also being psyfiended from like 20 yards away xddddddddddd
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