I’m tired of seeing people ‘at work’ while I’m playing a video game. Every GDKP ruins the value of currency in real life. You can’t use a country’s currency to buy in game items and not pay the artist who designed it. Don’t you see you are creating a market place that shouldn’t exist? Blizzard has terms of agreement for a reason. Don’t be a lame person and think you can get away with ‘buying’ items with real money. Instead, accept the challenge which is the game and have the satisfaction of playing legit.
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The only fix I think is a player one. Low pop servers. Leave the high one.
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IF gold buying didint exist what is the argument against GDKPS? I mean i get people dont like cause it makes recruiting for guilds harder etc but what is the argument if gold buying didint exist. Cause its against tos so it should not even been in the argument against GDKPS
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The one that was presented in the SoD ban announcement post? That was the primary reason, RMT was legit added later in an edit.
It turns the game into a transactional experience, which takes away from the RPG experience. Just my opinion and why I don’t have any desire to participate in them.
But as always, you do you.
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i dont understand why everyone thinks GDKP is bad, i get some people buy gold but others dont and still able to get end game gear. i came back to classic era myself 6 months ago and i was on the same boat about GDKP’s at first… thinking man forget that system and was all about LC guilds. once my LC guild broke apart i ended up joining a gdkp guild and realized it wasnt bad at all… I didnt have to spend a single real life currency and im almost full Naxx bis with 195k gold still in my possesion… even if my current guild breaks apart this gold currency i can take anywhere and wont need to start over, Compared to a LC guild you need to basically start over and maybe never see a bis item sent to you for a very long time. Granted yes there is def gold buyers but as long as you put time in like a LC guild you will eventually get whatever your heart desires. Just my own opinion but i def grew fond of GDKP’s over time.
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also to add to that, GDKP systems gives a great incentive to have people play their mains on MC/BWL/AQ20/ZG to help fill the groups faster. Without GDKP on that point of view it would liekly take a long time to fill or never fill at all. Just my additional 2 cents 
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One person buys gold and everyone in that raid gained from the buying of gold.
players continue to grievously ruin classic experience for themselves and other players; shocking? You decide!
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GDKP’s are a business model. anyone who at this point is playing gdkp isn’t doing it out of a RP motive. as server types vary (pvp vs. pve vs. rp-etc), this (model) has varying degrees of acceptability. but the sad dawning of realization is the style in which the players are playing WoW as more of a MMO-Looter, and not as much as a MMO-rpg.
All this does, is dumb down the experience for any legitimate rpg player and encourages RMT play for any unsuspecting player introduced to WoW. how many posts have you seen from newish players asking why they (people doing gdkps) do this? i can count at least a dozen in the past few years.
So none-the-less, the correlation between GDKP and RMT has been made, or Blizzrd wouldn’t be banning people for gold trade. and yeah, i don’t think Blzz is just being bag-holes and just doing it arbitrarily.
So moral? Who doesn’t like easy money? lol no, i know, but seriously, consider that you are drifting away from RPG, in a RPG-MMO, and that you are affecting other peoples gameplay experience in the manner of that they are playing the game as advertised, and what is advertised is not being delivered, as the gdkp-meta-community is not delivering a rpg game back to it’s community.
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They removed GDKP raids in SOD did nothing and arguably made things worse. It didn’t reduce the bots and appears to have had no impact on the RMT trade, it also didn’t reduce the costs of anything on the AH, all it did was eliminate raids making it even harder for Pugs to do content, so now we see even more crying on the boards on why people can’t find raids.
Personally not a an of GDKP raids myself and never really attended them as joining a raiding guild is a far better way to do content, and while its fine if you don’t like them and want them removed, but don’t kid yourself if you think removing them will have real impact on the economy.
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Seems we have another person who is unable to make the distinction between GDKP and RMT.
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Beyond that, it makes having to pug open slots a miserable experience. How many times when you try to fill empty raid slots have you been whispered by someone in 6.4k gear with gray, incomplete logs? I mean, you can take your chances but these are “players” who have no clue how to play their class let alone raid mechanics. They are continuing to wipe raids, they delay the speed and sync of raids and more times than not, they don’t make necessary corrections. It makes for a miserable experience for 9 or 24 other players who DO know their class and raid mechanics. ONE BAD PLAYER is 100% capable of wiping an entire raid.
Fact: Guilds of all skill levels exist. Players who haven’t mastered their class or are slow to learn raid mechanics are placing way too much importance on gear score and less importance on what is actually necessary to succeed. They need to first learn their class and basic mechanics and then go through the ranks as they personally level up. Gear comes with kills.
Thank the boosting for this issue.
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this has nothing to do with bots, from the perspective i mentioned above. it is about the players (and prob. some devs too) and standards of which are abided by in game play and out of game play. a person is behind every bot. there is no skynet making bots for WoW. arguing for awareness for the players not to drift into un-ethical grounds, despite the people that refute that and see any of this as some kind of opportunity of a different subject.
This is exactly what I was implying. gameplay experience for and by the players. not talking about the (as Blizzard calls them) “bad actors” engaging in Real life criminal activities. And yeah, this game is make believe, so there’s no harm in coming together irl to preserve a RPG space (as is the ultimate design intent of the game, i guess), nor revert to a business model for loot distribution or making sure the gameplay time you get is equitable (lol) above favoring the effect is has on everyone.
Well your really making a different argument than the original poster since your talking about RP, but having participated in a lot of raids from a personal perspective, I fail to see how GDKP is really any less/different in that sense then loot council, or any other loot system which are the systems I have always been more impacted by from an RP perspective, however this is a much more legitimate discussion, but my response were not really directed at your comment.
The original poster is inferring the GDKP players are buying gold, and that this gold is inflating real world prices, ultimately destroying the economy and driving up the number of Bots through their behavior, and that if you eliminate GDKP raids, this would go away. While there are reasons to keep/eliminate GDKP raids, as we saw with the experiment of banning GDKP raids in SoD, it had zero impact on the economy, and it also did nothing to reduce the number of bots, so their conclusion of removing GDKP raids has shown to be incorrect.
Again this isn’t saying GDKP raids should or shouldn’t be banned, it was more just disputing their justification.
ok. I am surprised raiding has come to this on other realm types though. sounds like it could become counter-intuitve for someones fresh experience.
I think no one knows how blizzard can ban bots, but supporting banning bots is good. whether or not banning gdkp in SoD has affected the Bot and RMT population, i don’t have any data to say.
but i will guarentee that switching azeroths economy to gdkp (without the presence of RMT) is a communistic style of economy, and I would hazard a guess that a real economist will tell you that the system doesn’t work and is “incorrect”. (any harvard economists want to comment on this? 
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((essentially, I would use hyperbole and call gdkp economy systm(s) a “Ponzi Scheme”.))
GDKP isn’t the best loot system ever created nor is it an example of pure evil.
Being advertised as the go to place to spend the rest of your bot gold after buying boosts hasn’t helped things, that much is for sure.