Who am I to define what the game is for someone else? For some people it’s about gearing and raiding or pvp. For some the game is about farming and acquiring massive amounts of gold in some kind of wall-street simulator. For some its a glorified chat room. We all pay the same sub. As long as they’re not violating the TOS (and GDKP runs dont) then to each their own
I’m not saying there is anything that can be done about it. It is what it is. I just frown upon it and choose not to participate.
But I would point out that the difference is that the game designers intended for BoE items to be purchasable with gold. That’s why they are BoE. But they made certain items, including most raid drops, BoP in order to - or so they thought - prevent them from being able to be sold or traded. They clearly did NOT want that to happen. GDKP circumvents that intended core game design.
You complete clown. I’m not rewriting GDKP history, you’re citing it as if it’s relevant to what GDKP currently is on Classic. The GDKP back in WotLK is irrelevant to Classic. The GDKP over on Ysondre is irrelevant to Classic. GDKP is literally just “gold for service” which has existed in the game for the past 15 years, and citing any stitch of it in response to what GDKP is for Classic WoW is completely irrelevant. You may as well talk about how Black Lotus scarcity wasn’t an issue back in vanilla, and so it’s completely fine in Classic.
You are making a blatant apples to oranges comparison in an attempt to conflate all instances of anything called “GDKP” over the past 15 years as equal rather than acknowledge the clear symbiosis between RMT and GDKP.
You can’t possibly know that, youre purely speculating. Restricting items to people who were present for the kill is still restricting items to a greater degree than BOE’s. For all you know, that was all the restriction they deemed necessary
In fact, if anything they’ve gone more the other direction by allowing the 2 hour window to exchange an item which makes them more tradeable, not less.
Sounds like you need to worry less about how others are playing the game.
The game defines its own objectives, that’s what makes it a game. That’s what makes any game a game.
Looking past the attempted cop out via deconstructing WoW until you’ve “proven” it was never a game to begin with, it’s a same assumption that anyone buying level 60 and then buying BiS gear has greater interest than a “glorified chat room” because neither level 60 nor BiS gear is required to use WoW as a chat room. They are in fact buying the objective goals the game as laid out before them for the purpose of completing those goals. Ironically, they’ve just spent real money to remove any reason for them to continue playing.
I get it though, you guys like RMT and you like GDKP and you’ll argue against the reasonable opposition to it. You’ll even pull the “how does it affect you” argument; as if hyper inflating the server economy so that someone can buy a sword affects only them.
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GDKP’s aren’t intrinsically linked to gold buying.
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I don’t think that is exactly true. I did gdkp runs for ToC in wrath and most items never sold for more than 3k gold. Not hard to make that much back then. Today however, items are going easy 10k in some runs.
None of my gold used in GDKPs has been bought with a credit card, still got me bracers.
…and? Doesn’t change the fact that it isn’t a given or even a requirement. I passed on trying to get Mantle of Wicked Revenge a week or two ago because some DPS Druid was just ADAMANT on taking them and ran the bill up several thousand gold, so I bowed out and he won. I’ll likely see them again, but if not it isn’t the end of the world, but I also know that if they are to drop again, there’s a good chance I get them for sub 500g or less. Same with other items that come more cheaply week after week, I’ll get access to better drops with cheaper prices, all while being patient and pulling nice fat pots at the end of each week giving me access to bigger funds should I ever feel froggy. I could drop 8k right now on a key item if I needed and still have gold left over for future GDKPs and main raiding consumables.
/shrug
The only requirement to “earn” gear in this game is to be present when the boss dies. That’s it. The sooner you realize this, the less angry you’ll be about people getting pixels similar to your own.
It is all relevant because every single GDKP I have run in Classic has run just like those I did in Wrath and Cata and onward, with the only change being they’re better organized. Discord does wonders for that to be honest.
Not even close…
You’re attacking GDKPs and Boosting because bots and cheats exist, and these are places the bots and cheats can use their ill gotten coin. That’s a problem with the bots and cheats, not the methods of use. Classic has loads of GDKPs because the content is easy and there are loads of people. End of.
You must have some first-rate gypsy skills to be able to assign motives to how other people spend their money.
Tell me oh great Wowstradamus. I bought a new pair of jeans and a tshirt today. What sinister motives did I have? Was I circumventing the system by not chopping down the blue jean tree myself? Perhaps its because I was born an Aquarius but grew into a capricorn with a blood moon rising? Maybe its my chakras? I MUST KNOW
And what praytell are the “objectives” of WOW? Have I been aimlessly milling about when the solution to beating the game was right in front of me this whole time? Oh please share great Wowstradomus.
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Sums up modern pay-to-win and cheat/exploit culture nicely. Like I said, there’s probably nothing that can be done about it. The culture is rotten. All one can do is frown upon it and choose not to participate.
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Even the gold from gold sellers comes from somewhere - it isn’t invented.
It takes mysticism or other supernatural gifts to accurately predict that a person who purchases a car plans to drive it. This is your logic.
Do quests, get gear, do dungeons, get gear, level up, get gear, form/join a guild, do raids, get gear.
None of this is difficult to understand once you drop the pretense that you’re not just trying to protect your ability to purchase things in Classic using RMT services.
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Not analogous. I could logically infer they intend to drive it. But your inference would be more analogous to assuming because they bought a Porsche they must be a race-car driver who aspires to use his Porsche to drive as fast as possible because your myopia only permits you to perceive his purchase through the lens of your own experience or world-view.
When the reality could just as likely be… he just bought a Porsche because he likes the way it looks. Even though you dont need a Porsche to get around any more than you need a Maladeth to use Wow as a glorified chat room
No, they actually don’t. Without RMT we would still have GDKPs. The pools would just be smaller.
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And it’s possible that they bought a Porsche to drive it into pond somewhere, but extremely unlikely. There is such a thing as probability, which is not the same as possibility, and it’s most probable that players are spending real money to purchase items in game to fulfill the goals set forth by the game without having to invest time and effort within the game to acquire them.
Right, but they’re laundering someone’s bought gold each time the yield is split 40 ways at the end of a run.
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Extrapolating.
More probable based on what? Thats predicting an action which is decidedly different from what you’re doing which is assigning motive
You can apply probability TO EVENTS. Its pretty much entirely nonsensical, to assign probability to MOTIVES.
Are you insane? I suppose law enforcement investigations should all just stop.
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Are you insane, lol? You understand how real life works right? This isn’t minority report…
I don’t know how else to explain this to you. Probability concerns EVENTS. Assigning probability to motive is pure nonsense.