Gdkp/boosting/3rd party community boosting

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Gdkp is the same as boosting
BOOSTING- paying gold to advance your character(levels)
Gdkp- paying gold to advance your character(gear)
You can not advance to next raid till you gear up on last one
You can not advance to higher quests and dungeons till you level up.
They both are farming people for gold.

Why did we take away boosting in retail wow? Spam, taking away player base for more normal raids. Players were farming other players for gold.

Community boosting- 3rd party software to connect to other players you usually dont play with to farm this gold off other players

In tbc classic, how do you obtain Dst? dragonspire something trinket for rogues/hunters always on hard reserve from gruuls lair, or war glaives, any legendary item? Farm gold and get pay someone to reserve it for it you if it drops. It could take weeks for it to drop, so this one person with gold has dibbs and you will never get a chance to get it unless you are capable to lead a pug raid. It can take 4 weeks or more so your taking 100 players? 20 per raid each week so you can farm gold off this randomn player.

Logging into some guilds discord- you get the channels dst bidders, warglaive bidders. Players get together so they can do this from different guilds. How is this not community boosting that we removed from retail?
I have gold so you get behind me in line for the item i want. I bought gold so you cant have dst, i overbid you.

Any item they want if it’s gdkp/pre bid, they get dibbs on, then come along other bidders and you just never see the item unless you can properly lead a raid and prevent players from leaving and it takes a lot of time, just so someone can make gold off these items.

Can we just go to everything free from bop and so people can just sell the items on a website like diablo 2 or something?
I want to spend my gold on epic flying instead of gear, and people just say go buy gold and make them send it through a posting on the auction house. Or they say get your gear up and continue doing gdkp for gold.

Gdkp= getting carried through raids, Farming people to bid on gear against each other, there is no set price for gear, it’s OUTBID EACH OTHER till your broke.
We need the self loot thing from retail to prevent gold having domination over gear. Master looting is causing the selling of items in raids that might drop.
You are farming players for gold just like boosting players. But raids require 10-25 people and you may only have 1-3 players that you brought to farm other players. Everyone is starting to do this themselves and is getting out of hand. Hard reserving prevents people from getting it, and you dont even know if they pre bid on the item, they couldve payed someone to HR for them.
Its ok if a guild or a large group of players reserve for themselves, but you will never actually know…

lets go back to self loot drops like they do in retail so players cant farm each other. They can still sell a carry for a set price, but no bidding over each other so someone can make gold…
sorry for sentence fragments and unsaid stuff, just a lot to add to this problem.

Oh boosting- taking people away from dungeons
gdkp- hard reserve- taking people away from dungeons
you cant have a normal raid and a gdkp recruiting at the same time, someone going to choose a gdkp instead of badge run to make gold… i have to wait longer to form a raid because someone wants to make gold.
cant get items because i dont have gold- dont reply to me with farming gdkp myself to make gold and do the same thing.
im not joining a gdkp raid for one item i need to have to outbid someone with more gold on it… screw you!
too many people out there doing gdkp, its not under control at a moderate level and will get worse.
stop farming gold for a traveling mammoth for 16k on all your characters when wotlk classic hits.
Can i just play the game without having to farm gold to get the gear which is payed for with effort? takes longer to form a regular raid and hope work doesnt call me before i finish the raid…

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Please add a TL:DR for obvious reasons.

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TL:DR = Too Long, Didn’t Read

So that means for some people who just want to understand the point you’re trying to make without having to read everything, they read the TL:DR that is at the bottom of the post.

Its a summary of everything you said in short form.

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It’s crazy but it turns out you can in fact play the game without ever joining a gdkp

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how much time you have at each log in session to play a raid thats not gdkp, or to compete against another raid forming? and how long do those raids take to finish sometimes?

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too long to read

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i don’t understand the question compete against another raid forming?

we’re clearing 6/9 BT in a little over an hour and sunwell in maybe 1:30 though i’ll admit lastnight we ran into a spot of trouble with twins and muru so took closer to 2 hours

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You going to try to remove loot council or dkp too? The problem isn’t the gdkp system. the problem is gold buying. gdkp as a system was simply designed to be a universal form of dkp that WASN’T locked to a guild. so you still had a point system for PUG groups for players who weren’t or didn’t want to be a part of a guild. Since the points were gold, they carried over to the next PUG. The more runs you do the more points(gold) you acquired to have to spend on the next run. same exact concept as the dkp system.

*edit: If a guild used the dkp system and the guild leader accepted paypal to add more points to a player’s bank. would the problem be the system? or the guild leader selling dkp points?

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5-10 minutes? Get a damn guild. You schedule raids in advance with the same group of people, the runs go smoothly because everyone knows what’s up. Why are you acting like a GKDP is the only way to get gear? I have 2 basically game BIS characters and never ran a GDKP for gear.

We clear sunwell every week, the only gold I spend is on consumes, and it takes less time than the average sunwell GDKP without spamming lfg.

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man you spoiled my big reveal :frowning:
i’m taking my post and going home

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Im kinda solo on call work 24/7 . I cant schedule a raid in couple days because i dont know if a ton of ships come into the channel at once that day.
But gdkp its nothing to do with guild on grobbulus anymore. G stands for gold/points.

Its the 25 man raid mainly people want to farm gold from carries. No set prices, just outbid each other. I dont buy gold. And people just tell you how to get around the system to buy gold. And for availability theyre looking at the availabiltiy forgetting other people cant play as much as them

Dst always reserved and few times its a guild reserving for guildy. Otherwise u have to pug/form which rarely works out a lot of the time. One thing wrong, and people start leaving. Dst on alliance is 5k. Dst on horde 10k.
There is no common set price. Can we pay to roll on it? Create another system.

Come wotlk my small guild can do 10 man raids. Big improvement. Kara can take 5 hours pug.
People started making everything gdkp raid. You need one piece of gear. Do you try to outbid someone with more gold?.
Its just gotten to the fact gdkp is overwhelming amount of gdkp and lack of tank and heals to form own raid. It has slowed down now that i ranted a ton and other people have started voicing themselves as well

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I raid in a guild.

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Don’t forget to make all gear and patterns be BoP, because gear sold in the AH is boosting according to this standard.

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Same, im doing MH GDKPs right now for odd pieces that didn’t drop for me in guild runs, and i know the items will be cheap, and we no longer run it as a guild. I just did a BT MS/OS tonight too, this was for a more expensive item if you did a GDKP, so i found a MS/OS run. You don’t need to go GDKPs to raid. I do guild runs, MS/OS, SR-MS/OS and GDKPs. It all depends on what i need and what is the optimal way for ME to get it.

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umm, its still there.

its called carry now. also its not for gear. its to make “link AOTC” people happy more these days.

for now…

we’d need to see how group loot (or as I call it master not master loot) plays out.

See…part of me is going even if guild locked the new step to some crews is…join the guild for the night. Voila…guild master loot to a potential gdkp setup. Raid done, bids done, leave guild. See you next week!

which I’d see people doing. see long ago in eve some ran a standing service for game money.

Join their corp. Inherit that corps high standing for the NPC faction you wanted. Buy what you needed that needed that standing.

then leave. I used these quite a few times on some chars. Some corps did this for free. I used one of them.

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Stop crying and form a raid with your own loot rules. Or are you too lazy to do that? I run in my weekly guild SWP on my main and hop in GDKP’s whenever I can. If I can’t find the raid or loot system I like, I just form the raid myself. It’s a lot of work, but if you have half a brain cell it can be done. So get to typing in LFG and doing gear inspections at A’dal instead of crying here.

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GDKPs are not boosting

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Seeing how the Classic community currently handles Master Loot systems…I kinda have to agree that personal loot is the healthiest option to maintain an actual “community” of people who raid to raid, and not raid as a second job for monetary gain from drops. I’m not big on turning Classic into Retail, but EVERYTHING is transactional in game now. Personal loot rewards players who down content each week, over rewarding someone with a credit card who wants to get carried. GDKPs encourage most of the negative aspects of the Classic experience right now. I doubt Blizz will do anything though, they support GDKPs and don’t seem to care about gold sellers and “sirs” that now infest every server, playing purely to sell gold.

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GDKPs only have good payouts when the people running the GDKP bring along pure buyers who will spend X amount over the raid. That is 100% boosting. These players often are only required to just not wipe the raid and practically afk, collecting loot entirely off gold payment.

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Buying raid consumes is boosting!

If you didn’t farm and create your own raid consumables you’re being boosted!

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