Remember when Gressil sold for 198k gold? Goldfish crackers remembers.
Anti gdkp andies are such clowns. You can’t hide behind blizzard anymore for your vitriol and now can only cling to “haha it’s banned tho”. I can’t wait to see you people quit in p3 again.
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When stores put in security cameras they tell their customers is for their safety, not to catch them shoplifting lol
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What reason can you think of to leave out any mention of RMT when discussing their reasons for banning GDKP in fresh? That was one of their reasons they mentioned when they said they were trying a GDKP ban with SoD. What changed?
Yes they are 
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No abuse. Best loot system. Noobs usually don’t get invited to GDKP unless they got gold, and there are a lot of noobs without gold so they complained and eventually got it banned.
Their reason: RMT. But deep down they know it’s because they’re too poor or too nooby to be invited to GDKP’s. Still waiting for AH & trading to get disabled and for SF to be enforced on every character.
Didn’t solve bots, didn’t solve RMT. Only punished gigachads.
Actual clown.
Your analogy might make more sense if they never mentioned RMT as a reason for a GDKP ban before, but they did. They mentioned that as a reason to ban it in SoD. That was their first GDKP ban. Now they don’t mention it for fresh. Why? Can you tell me why?
what I understand is that there isn’t as much a community as there is a trading floor
and you are making an assumption that I don’t believe, mc will be popular for at least the entire length of bwl. these are mega servers, not the same as your first run in 2019.
I could not care less what you are doing in your free time yet you keep mentioning it, but don’t worry I will be farming orcs in stv as well
also I definitely won’t “lose” because I will actually be in a guild
I suppose the irony is lost on you P2W kiddos, but its still amusing.
It doesn’t matter why you think they banned it. It just matters that its not in this iteration and you can’t swipe for pixels. Its not good business to insult your clientele but you P2W kiddos wouldn’t know much about that.
Cheers!
the part where you imagined that RMT is the only excuse, it’s not. as I’ve said before the aspect of being in a guild/community is the biggest reason
also the part where apparently not mentioning RMT, which is a known issue for gdkp, suddenly means to you that the stance has changed. that doesn’t make sense.
because it is already a known factor
why would it need to be mentioned again?
helped mend the community by banning gdkp
Why would the community reason need to be mentioned again? Why mention that as a reason but leave RMT out?
Keep in mind these blue posts are very carefully crafted posts. They don’t just forget stuff. If they don’t mention something it’s for a reason.
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optics. it could be seen as a softer reason or perhaps it didn’t seem to get through to people last time
even every GDKPer knows there were massive amounts of RMT gold being used and abused in gdkps, that was displayed to hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, of people on twitch and youtube via streamers. it’s not really a surprise to anyone that RMT is involved with GDKP even if it’s not in the “majority” of individual raids. It could still perhaps be the “majority” of illicit gold transfer, we don’t have that data
what’s not in as clear of a spotlight, is how gdkp affects communities and guilds
edit: that’s my guess
thats a lot of guessing and maybes for someone that demands facts and data from others. cool beans!
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yep, the fact that gdkp is involved in egregious rmt has already been heavily documented on VOD and streaming services, what I was asking for is data about your community that you seem to enjoy
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Sure one can make it like that if they want, it is a pug at the end of the day.
But social interaction has always been player driven, content is just a medium to get players together, not necessarily interact outside of doing what’s needed for the content.
I became friends with many people I ran gdkps with because were similar people. I want to be around pumpers and people who like to preform well, so I was more inclined to want to interact with people in the gdkp communities over normal pugs, as normal pugs just gave me a pounding headache and a massive want to log off the second I could.
It’s all about what you as a player choose to do, so yes one can treat gdkps as a job, but one can also treat it like the pug it also is.
There were multiple megaservers in 2019. Faerlina, grobb, benediction, to a less extent mankrik, pagle, sulfuras.
Older raids get ran for 3 reasons, locked in guilds farming, prog for late guilds, and pugs.
Players like myself have been there and done that for all 3. We’re not getting into the guild farm because they don’t need more bodies. That leave guild hosted pugs and true pugs, both of which pull from the wider pool of players and generally have a lower quality. I’m done suffering my alts through lower quality raids that don’t come with the guarantee that we’re even killing all the bosses. Gdkps confirmed that all bosses would die because of the gold incentive at the end. This is what make gdkps attractive to me and many other players.
We refuse to go suffer through bad pugs anymore. We’re just going to raidlog.
You’re missing the point entirely then.
Without gdkps players like myself just won’t be in game doing runs. That means less players for your runs. The remaining players are already a mixture of alts, late players, and bads, and how many of those continue playing older content? They don’t, not after a while.
This is how gdkps keep the game alive, a point you keep glossing over, hand waving by saying “but loot like thunder fury” to which I’ve responded with that we’re not running Mc in later phases for this, but we’ll do it for gold.
I’ve never bought gold. You’ll still call me a gold buyer anyways because it’s all you can do. You’re just another bot waiting to be farmed, I’ve already disregarded any opinion you can put out here because it’s just one liner snide remarks that further no point other than proving you’re just another generic NPC with minimal brain functionality.
Yeah killed a community to save a community. Makes sense. I’m so glad blizzard is looking out for a community that naturally eats itself alive to the point of leaving servers fully dead over the community that has kept the games alive for a prolonged period of time. Really great logic there.
It isn’t though. Rmt is just a known issue. It’s not specific to gdkp.
I’ll never believe people like you actually care about RMT. You only attack gdkps but I’ll never see you attack the auction house, professions, player laziness, vanity, or more reasons why someone would buy gold, only exclusively gdkps. You use rmt as a sword and shield, because anyone who defends gdkps, even in this thread right now, will just be called gold buyers, but you’ll never go on the offensive for the AH, a tool used by sellers and buyers extensively. Bots sell their items there, sellers buy items listed from a buyer to complete a sale, neutral AH allows sellers to transfer gold cross faction for sells, ah encourages gold buying by giving players an easier means of obtaining bis gear and consumables, one of which is a weekly buy every week for the entire time you’re raiding.
I’ll never see you go on the offensive against that because you don’t actually hate rmt, you just hate gdkps and want to use rmt as a shield.
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In other versions of the game, perhaps. In 2019 Classic, perhaps. I don’t think that’s really the case in today’s Era. Era has had 5 years to build up a massive gold reservoir. Big bids are expected at this point with or without RMT. Era players are also much more concerned about the long term so I think they’re probably less likely to risk a ban by buying gold.
Maybe a GDKP ban is better for short term versions like SoD and fresh, but they better not bring that to Era.
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the pros of GDKP
it keeps the community spam running raids forever with an incentive to continue running raids even after you are fully bis
the cons
attracts the bottom of the barrel scumbags who live off the game
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