Yes but westfall is a server that’s been around a while. On maladath there’s still a ton of people leveling. I did the quest in sholazar that takes you to ungoro and did /who. Zone was full of levelers.
You’re comparing an existing server to a fresh one. Apples and oranges.
Ok so would them making RFD for just Low Level content acceptable? It also stems down to population issue based on servers but this is a consequence of Blizzard not having backwards compatibility like retail does with higher levels being able to do lower level dungeons.
I understand the prospect of playing on your “home server” might be a big thing but they’re a tool for you to be able to play with others. Not for you to be able to say “This is where I’ll be forever”
RFD in my experience has never allowed players to interact, it has actually allowed the opposite. No one talks or does things unless something goes wrong and they say something to insult everyone and they leave as easily as they came. A consequence of the system, leaving the rest to wait esp if it’s a healer or a tank. Instead of taking someone like that they would have been filtered out from the start.
Or even them adding the current retail LFD system in retail to classic where you can cross server and look for groups and form groups and still be able to filter out undesirables. However the RFD system people are demanding does neither of these.
That’s a compromise I’ve seen a lot of people ask for, 1-70 (Outland) should be RDF-able. And current content (Wrath) should be make your own groups.
I’ve literally never seen anyone run mara because of just how much of a massive pain it is to get to and even run, especially now with the whole anti-boost exp thing they made. Mara has such a huge level gap for people that it’s just not worth bothering with.
Honestly, I prefer if RDF went for all normal dungeons and Heroic Dungeons be disinclined from RDF.
I am the mage. We already go so fast we hit lockout, no need to go any faster than that. Bring a rogue and we might as well 4 man. If the rogue pays, maybe they can come. Any class (other than rogues) are welcome as long as they’re not being carried. Three paragraphs of nothing. lmfao
Hmmm 
Yeah, none of that is trolling. It is just toxicity.
this is a flat out lie. rdf does NOTHING to prevent you from still spamming a group channel and forming your groups manually, but removing it removes the choice between rdf and LFG.
youre arguing from a faulty foundation and the rest of your debate falls flat when half your argument is just flat out wrong from the jump.
its bs that i pay the same amount you do so should have equal say and equal options to play the way i want too? when the tools are there to provide BOTH of us the option we want?
so let them CHOOSE to not do it again.
whats currently going on is there is ONE system that not only allows but encourages gatekeeping, you can see it in the responses against rdf, heck, theres been quite a few that flat out said they are gatekeeping. so im guessing that sort of thing would fall under your “but my player experience” comment? and youre bundling LFR in with RDF when RDF is the sole discussion here. and guess what… when LFR DID come out, i chose not to use it.
as far as the want for RFD, it encompasses more than you cover here but you dont want to hear it. you dont want to hear that i want RDF so that when we are down one guy in our 5 man we can que in and get one to run the dungeon, you dont want to hear that when my guild isnt doing much and i have spare time, i want RFD so i can hop on my tank and que in solo to help OTHERS GET RUNS done. to LIFT up my faction and help other players. RDF isnt for speed runners, speed runners should by all means still use LFG channel to spam for their folks.
RDF is used for a great many things including limiting toxicity and limiting gatekeeping to the casual player aka what anti rdf’ers call “tourists”
and as ive said before, watching who is responding with anti rdf rhetoric, it seems to be pvpers who have a problem with rdf, why? because it takes people out of the world so they cant be ganked at dungeon entrances or in the world on their way there.
so simple… RDF for normal servers, NO RDF for pvp servers. problem solved.
that’s completely not true and you know that haha it quiet literally deleted group forming because people will just queue it and alt F4 since you’d have to physically fly to each area. They would just put up with all the downsides. Also my argument isn’t that RFD is the problem my argument is that it isn’t the solution to the majority of the problems people have. You however seem to just dislike the fact that people won’t take you. There is a saying that if you meet 1 Ahole it was an ahole. but if you’re always meeting ahole you’re likely the ahole.
I pay just as much as the gladiator 2900 rogue yet people won’t invite me to the group because I have no PvP gear or rating history. Blizzard should make a random arena rating or solo arena.
This is essentially what you’re asking. Just because you haven’t earned or been able to dip your feet in a piece of content, you want that content trivialized and changed to then allow you to easily fit in. I don’t know if you know this but this also lessens the difficulty of said content and the vanity of it. Maybe put more effort? It’s not an impossible thing to do there are TONs of people able to do it now solo, it’s clearly not a rampant thing when it’s people such as yourself that keep encountering this same issue.
No, it’s not a system that “encourages gate keeping” it’s a system that allows you to choose your party. Much like every RPG in the world of existence. Almost every fantasy game has this trop of who do you bring? A rogue? A Mage? And Paladin? Maybe a healer?
You’re upset with the genre. RFD removed one of the most basic MMORPG aspects and that’s what you want out. LFD was the best solution because it allowed to KEEP that same aspect while addressing all the issues with being population and everything
This can be done, regardless of LFD or not.
In fact this is more of a downside than a upside. You will get someone to join in the middle of a dungeon who they don’t want to however Blizzard punishes players for leaving forcing them to stay. If you guys do a proper LFG and form a group, you usually filter these people out before they join your dungeon and they don’t join your dungeon. There’s far more downsides to this system then upsides. You’re asking for convenience over gameplay/community which was the whole entire reason Classic came out, because the contras of retail. If you want that I suggest playing retail to begin with. The game you want to play already exists you’re just in the wrong area.
The opposite is true, what you’re calling “Toxicity” is literally only people not inviting someone because you don’t fit the criteria.
You’re asking a system to be put in to take away the choices of other players to tell you no.
If your problem is you’re not being able to join have you considered just being a nicer person? A lot of people will bring someone they enjoy playing with. I am sorry but it sounds to me that your problem is your lack of friends not the lack of the change of the whole game’s systems or playerbase.
I think this says a lot about why no one wants to talk to anyone in this game.
At any rate, if you’re THE mage running with a DK in the group, you’re just blustering.
OMG WE KNOW! So freaking what?? RDF wouldn’t remove that. This wouldn’t affect you at all.
What do you mean? You dont enjoy having all of the big ticket bis heroic items on hard res?
idk i joined a few pugs through the group finder and ran into no problems or ppl resing items
good so far, rdf would still be cool lol
Lol you got a dissenting opinion and its toxic trolling. You’re just soft. You probably hate anyone who has opposing views from you.
No, they just do fine dps if they know they what they’re doing. I don’t know what you’re on about and why you’re trying to die on the hill of letting rogues in your groups. It’s weird.
I actually don’t hate anyone. All I am saying is your a troll because they way you act on the forums. So sad though for trolls such as yourself though, can’t even see themselves with the way they behave.
Except I’m not trolling. And I don’t care what you think of how I act. I believe everything I said. I know you’re trying to make yourself feel better by calling me a troll.
Just because you claim it does not make it so. This is just sad at this point. Why can’t you just move on? You’re not going to get better on the forums.
Does this make me look any better to call you a troll for your trolling attitude here on the forums? Like, seriously, grow up, and take responsibility for your actions.
Just don’t be bad
Hard reserves aren’t going to be a thing till players start working on their alts. So probably near the end of the month we’ll start seeing those.
But I also want to touch base on people not making groups, there’s players out there not feeling comfortable in leading one. Especially with the AoE/speed running mentality, like form a certain elitest warrior in the thread. They view it like so, the faster I get to 80, the more heroic lockouts I can do to get better gear for 10 naxx and jumping into 25 naxx after. And repeat for gear that hasn’t been replaced. In all honesty, they view playing the game like a choir, so they should just quit tbh.
I’ve actually seen it twice already. Honestly, I do not mind if people want to reserve stuff, but the thing that annoys me the most is they won’t mention it until after the group is formed and people are already at the dungeon.