Topic after topic about gatekeeping, aka a word players are using for practices other players are doing which is reducing or preventing entry into dungeons.
Here is a stone cut example I’ve been watching play out real time"
LFM ZF must be 42+ <–this was put out the moment Phase 3 was released.
LFM ZF must be 43+ <–this was some time later
LFM ZF must be 44+ <–this was some time later
Now today as I log in:
LFM ZF must be 46+
This is what players are calling gatekeeping.
As you can see, playing stack 20 completed quests and rush to 42. Then they gatekeep anyone who has not done that so only level 42s can run ZF. They then raise this bar as their own level raises from power leveling in the dungeon.
In effect, if you didn’t stack 20 completed quests and dungeon and incursion grind your fingers off then you will see a VERY few amount of ZF runs that will accept you.
It’s all good though. I’ll slowly get to 50 like I did 40. I’ll not do a single Sunken Temple. Yet I’ll still dog walk every Alliance I see in PvP. So enjoy the red strength while you can.
This happen to our Guild back in Wrath in the winter of 08 everyone was mad and ready to quit but Big fun laid it down and said " Just enjoy the game".
You do know that are certain words or sentences that are self evident right? Like, every single person who even things of joining a dungeon knows they can make their own group.
Your the guy pointing at a lamp saying “I like lamp”.
We love ya guy, but relax. We know the Sun shines and water is wet.
Obviously not bored enough to fully read it, digest it, choose to reply, and reply though right?
Obviously you like this post because you now have something to do in the future. You put me on your calendar.
You like it.
We.
Know.
The.
Sky.
Is.
Blue.
You know, I assume this game is mostly 30+ year old players but after some of these comments I’m beginning to think otherwise.
How do you think it’s not obvious to us that we can create our own group? I’m making this comment with a Hero of the Horde title on, riding a Gladiator season 1 mount. Do you think I haven’t ran ZF or know it’s difficulty?
It would be lovely to get legit comments and not the same fluff words time and time again. It’s like you people are waiting in the shadows for a gotcha moment and it’s cringe.
They are likely doing this because of two different things:
Group average level affects your experience gains. The closer everyone is to the same level the better the experience gains.
ZF like many other dungeons are wildly varied in mob levels. Level 42 players are certainly not going to be doing the 47 and 48 bosses. They are probably just grinding the low level mobs. The higher groups probably want to kill the bosses and need people in range to do that.
Thank you for the comment. Those sounds like legit reasons for people to argue doing what they are doing.
I’m aware they can do what they want and don’t even have to argue about it. Yet, if they want to reply to these types of topics and have honest reasons as to why they gatekeep, I think these are reasonable.
On a side note: I was level 42 and cleared the entire dungeon today as top damage meaning not the most powerful team.
You are the one complaining about restrictions others are putting on joining their group.
Its amazing how those restrictions dont matter if you make your own group.
They may have 1 reason or another for those restrictions, but its their group to do that with. So if you dont like it, making your own group is an option.
You complaining about it is like complaining about it raining on you when you can chose to get out of the rain.
I mean that’s what we did. When we started we took people level 42 and 43 because we skipped the bosses. Once we hit 46 we wanted higher level people to clear the bosses.
Unless you were a hunter, I don’t believe you. Even as a spellcaster that would be rough, and it would be actually impossible as a melee. I know, because I had to tank him at 43/44.
My point is, your argument has been admitted and argued so many times that it has been considered irrelevant to the point in question for years now.
So you are taking time, typing words that literally have zero meaning to me or others who have read them for over 20 years.
I would love for you to have an original idea, to give input or insight.
I can buy myself a parrot I don’t need you for that.
Makes sense
Thank you for the insight!
From now on when someone suggests making your own group. I’m going to assume “like in your case” that you are picking on child minded people who bring it up.
har har nice joke friend
We had a Hunter with us and at certain times he did pull ahead of me.
But ya, it’s truth. I’m assuming I pulled ahead with Immolation aura hitting every bug in sight, etc.
Hunters do not play at the same situation as other classes. There are no glancing and they have no parry as a ranged.
I do not believe that you were doing the BOSSES at a better rate than other people. The bugs are not red to you. The bosses are. Everyone can do well on the bugs.
I’m not sure where you are trying to go now with your comments.
If you think I’m lying about topping the damage, cool it’s not the point. I’m content with you assuming that because it’s not relevant.
As per finishing ZF at level 42 killing the blood red bosses. I have the blue items from ZF in my bags right now to prove it. How can I lie if I can prove it?
I’m glad you hear a word, look it up once, then drive on refuting anyone who doesn’t use it in exact terms.
Meanwhile:
I knew people like you were coming so my opening post wording should have already filtered you out. Yet here you are, lul.
(1) make pally
(2) say “pally tank LFG. melee grp preferred”
You’ll be invited within 5 microseconds by a rogue or warrior who doesn’t want to tank. They will put the rest of the group together for you. They really are industrious.
Haven’t tried it yet, but I’m sure they’ll get you a group to tank ZF at level 35 lol.
My point is that I would not want to bring someone to kill a boss that is going to be red to them when I can instead bring someone that can hit the bosses at a reasonable rate. because I want someone in range of the mob because it’s extremely inadequate to have someone that low.
I’m sure that you can get carried at the red bosses. That’s not really my argument. My argument is that I would rather bring someone that works at all the points not just the trash.