Like Essences we have now. YOU THOUGHT 25 for a trinket was bad. TRY 38!!! hahah
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ohh yah, 300 for a shadowmourne.
I think they simultaneously increased the cost, but also made every gamma boss drop the token instead of just final bosses, to discourage skip runs
Which means you can get tokens faster than you think by just full clearing the dungeons
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Yeah, but you can spam instances with Dungeon Finder, so it’s whatever, I guess 
Oh, did they? That’s pretty cool, I think.
If that’s the case, then it’s awesome. Roughly 3 bosses per run = 12 runs to get trinket.
That’s actually not that bad.
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It’s definitely a catchup mechanic that anybody could use to gear up any class or spec for ICC.
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I really hope this is what they did but I haven’t actually seen anywhere confirming this
because they made it up.
Deaths Verdict would only take ~10 dungeons. Not even 1 world tour.
Dark matter was 24 iirc. That’s over 2x as much.
then add rdf for efficiency
icc is going to be like 6 months too.
no chance
I mean they could still do this and just adjust the prices to be higher than shown
Sidereal essence prices were changed a lot during PTR
A good decision? From this dev team? I don’t believe you
We were all shocked, but yes, it does appear so and much kudos to them for doing it.
It makes a ton of sense to have them drop from all bosses though, most of all it combats the skip culture of current titan forged dungeons which would be really bad for an RDF environment where people might want the actual gear that drops (the travesty, I know!).
Not to mention the badges. I’ve still got heirlooms to collect, damn it!
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Solace trink from 5mans? is it the normal version?
im in a chill alt friendly 4/5 gdkp and they run twice a week so like 24 lockouts?
we have seen literally zero death’s choice at all the entire phase.
People can cry about it being unoriginal, which i agree with, but in cases like this i think a normal trinket from last phase being obtainable through another method isn’t gamebreaking
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In my raid team, we’ve only seen 1 Solace 2 DVs and only 1 caster trink from Anub w/e it’s called.
So MOST OF US (from main raid team) will need to do a lot of dungeons to get at least 245s.
But 38 for 1 trinket is also way too much.
It would be normal version, yes. (245ilvl).
However, one healer’s trinket doesn’t actually bring nearly as much of a power boost as DV or DBW or any other DPS trinket.
Given how healer roles keeps dropping in popularity over the course of expansions, I vote to even reduce Solace in comparison to DV.
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Every boss is dropping an essence.
Gamma are live on PTR.
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I’m sure they asked this because Flyingfox is an avid PvPer and Solace is absolutely insane for healers and mana based dps classes alike in PvP.
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i gave up wrath pvp tbh
my alt does have solace lol i might play him a bit
yea solid trink for shams no doubt. i heard even eles want it too
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Yes, it’s the normal version, you’ll still have to raid for the heroic version.
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For me, I’d like to get Dark Matter for both my Druid and DK, but I couldn’t be bothered to run H++, so I just don’t.
Clarification for earlier.
You can activate Gamma in dungeons on PTR.
The loot tables for Gamma have not been updated yet, so the essences do NOT drop.
The new ICC 5 mans are live. They said those would drop essence just like gamma, but would not have a gamma version. In these ICC 5 mans, Defiler’s Scourgestones (The new Sidereal) are dropping from every boss.
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