Game just caters to melee players because they are 80% of the pvp population

Can’t be motivated to play anything anymore. Everything is omega boring. Melee dominate every season especially in shuffle. Playing a melee vs 3 other melee is also not fun. Healing 4x melee isn’t fun either. Healers are just designed so badly they are extremely boring and a melee cleave meta just makes it even more boring.

The only spec that counters the shuffle meta is ret which is also a unstoppable melee god and good luck trying to get que pops on it when 30% of the pvp playerbase is queing it. You can either sit in que all day on a melee god spec, suffer for no reason on a caster, or lose your hair trying to get rating in a deflated bracket as healer.

Nothing is fun anymore.

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Well, bye.

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I queued 3 destro lock shuffles & got 3 melee on blackrook hold back to back.

I laughed to myself, went 0-2 and left. don’t even care. thanks blizz!

Dalaran sewers isn’t available in Solo Shuffle.

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as a fellow 80%'er i do request more fury and prot buffs

clap clap get to work blizzard i expect my request by tuesday

  • Execute buffed by 15% loloool

I do not like raven arena. As hunter. Feels very claustrophobic for me.

melee and wizards are both good i dont see the issue gang

I liked it as a pvp world quest though. :dracthyr_love_animated:

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Low skill warlock take.

Is warlock not one of the top shuffle classes?

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the most popular specs in the game hard counter demo in shuffle, arms and ret

destro is mid but still have the highest que times of any caster good luck getting games in past 2.2. the forums overestimate destro every single patch. They got nerfed harder than dh despite losing every single series in awc to cleaves. And have fun playing that trash when 90% of games are arms/ww/bm/ret on hook and ruins

aff is trash

…???

Spoiler alert: DH didn’t actually get nerfed

You ain’t wrong about that though

destro is good in 3s but tell me how it’s good in shuffle when you automatically lose 2 rounds anytime a hunter is on your team and they are also good against you. Same goes for like every top spec. Bad/mid on your team and good against you. If lock was so good I would just play rshaman but I never get lock lobbies above 2.1.

Ok, but just because YOU automatically lose 2 rounds with a hunter doesn’t mean everyone else has the same experience.

As affliction, when someone blind/trap/incap/poly my entire burst rotation, I usually take note of their (lack of) awareness and just change my game accordingly. That’s all you can really do as affliction in shuffle. You don’t have much in the form of peels, which is unfortunate when your team dies early because you gain value later.

Conversely, on destro I could cc chain someone, or 100-0 someone behind a pillar, etc. It’s a way more punishing spec and has many more viable partners. I personally think destro is prob the best ranged spec in the game right now for just about all formats of arena. I find it difficult to agree it’s struggling in any way shape or form. And the “nerfs” were completely fair and fine.

bro what, you are saying hunter + destro is good into double melee and that hunter + melee doesn’t get free wins vs destro you are actually just cooked. Those 40 minute ques have cooked you my dude.

I think you’re making excuses because you don’t actually understand what you are talking about.

I’m not trying to play rock paper scissors of solo shuffle matchups with you. It’s a moot point.

I’d like to reiterate what I said, more clearly: Destro is the best ranged spec in the game. If I were equally skilled in all ranged specs, and playing in a melee lobby, I’d personally choose destro every time.

being best caster in shuffle but still worse than all the meta melee specs and hunters and even countered by the meta healer does not make it good or fun to play

rock paper scissors matters when 90% of games are rock and you are playing scissors

I’d like to reiterate what I said, more clearly: Destro is the best ranged spec in the game. If I were equally skilled in all ranged specs, and playing in a melee lobby, I’d personally choose destro every time.

bm is way better into double melee and its not even close. Two freedoms on a 20 second separate cooldown. Way better synergy with the meta melee specs that will be on your team. Mage is also obviously better into double melee but you auto lose to hunters. Shocker.

Being the meta caster doesn’t make you the better player

???wat???

being the meta caster doesn’t matter if you don’t fight any casters in shuffle. If I actually got caster lobbies to farm then I would play destro (or demo).

Peak arena gameplay is four destros just max range poking each other with conflags until somebody gets bolted like 7 times in a coil 13 minutes into the game

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I mean I don’t disagree but it’s disgusting that hpal is kind of bad at the same time and that was the last hope to counter the melee meta. Rsham having the best hps is just salt in the wound. And I understand shuffle and 3’s is different but not that much, often 3s meta evolves as shuffle does.

The problem is that if they forced 2x caster and 2x melee then either hunter would be griefing as a mis-classed caster and farm everyone and/or melee ques would be insane because shocker people play whats good and easy.