Complicated topic. On the one hand, yes “Blizzard Polish” was a thing. The standards were quite high through their history. On the other hand, there hasn’t been a single expansion that has run smoothly in the history of this game. Not one.
The difference is how the players received and reacted to it. Another thing is also how the company handled it. I hate to say this sentence, but it applies to this thread: “I’ve been here for a looooong time. about 12 years to be exact, on multiple accounts.” And I can tell you, it’s been game-breakingly worse in the past.
Yes, the engine is showing its age, its limitations and quite honestly, I feel it may be THE reason for all the problems we currently face. We don’t know how much of the class design is limited by the engine itself and what it can or cannot do. A game developer will never tell you: oh we can’t fix this because you know, we operate on a 20-year old engine that can’t process anymore.
HOWEVER, I remember times where the game was SO BAD, and SO BROKEN, that the company had to give free game time to its customers just to retain them. I remember bugs that made people one-shot everyone in a bg (in wrath). I remember old world bugs that allowed players to go through walls and underneath the floor and bypass major mechanics and NEVER got addressed for YEARS until the Cataclysm.
I am not saying we live in paradise, BfA is definitely not a crown jewel, but I am saying that embellishing the past to make a point about the present is not the way to address the issues.
So I am 111 and have a ton of quests to do to finish my class hall campaign including 4-5 Legion dungeons. Problem is I can’t get them to appear in the LFD grouping so I can do them. All that appears is the 1st couple of Zanfalari ones and they are also locked as I have not gone to Zandalari yet. Any suggestions on how I can get around this?
The thing about doing old content is that you cannot do it at its intended level (most of the times). Due to the nature of the game, the best solution is to leave those on your quest log, continue on to Zandalar and level to 120. Once you are maxed, you can go back and finish your hall if you want, because you will be able to go directly to the dungeons/raids entrances and solo the content for the most part. Just how old content works unfortunately.
I can tell you as someone who’s played the game for 10 years now that the game has never been as buggy as it is now. And that’s just from what I recall lvling in BFA…I quit this dumpster fire some time ago.
But MVP shills like you would still white knight for Activision if all there was left was a blank login screen. Go get em, little man.
Once you hit 111, you can’t queue for Legion dungeons (because you’ve advanced beyond Legion levels). You should try the Group Finder’s “Premade Groups” tab. Alternatively, if you really do want to finish the class hall campaign eventually, you can just go on ahead into BfA content, and go back & solo the Legion stuff when you’re at 120.
But I guess using coin words like “shill” or “white knight” are the best you can do when you comment on forums of games you don’t actually play?
*Corrupted Blood, the most infamous bug to date. Although “fun” and eventually remembered as “cool”, literally decimated servers and made the game unplayable.
*Dragging Lord Kazaak to Stormwind, making the capital city unplayable.
*The famous DK bug that happened in Wrath where they could target friendly players, broke the game for a while.
*in 2009 a lot of servers had a bug that made the entirety of Northrend crash whenever Wintergrasp was won by a certain faction.
*The infamous dissapearing Zeppelins that would spawn people in the middle of nowhere or mid-air into your deaths.
Many of these and other bugs lasted for A LONG time.
etc. etc. etc. I can go all day, so yes, the game has been as or worse in terms of bugged and “broken” prior to BfA.
I see judging by your post count you are new to the WoW forums. So, WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF WARCRAFT! We’re lucky to have you!
Second of all, as someone previously mentioned, the limitations of the game (and bug fixes) may in fact be limited because of the game engine. If the engine is a 2002 game engine, obviously it’s going to be outdated and unable to host quality graphics and a quality game like, say, Overwatch.
And while the typical response to the above would be “Blizz should get better game engine, then”, it is not that simple, because you would then likely have to rewrite the code for the game from scratch. Different engines require different codes to run them, so while an engine that can support 4K graphics like Overwatch would probably allow Blizzard to do much better in the bug fixing and game design department, you would likely be spending weeks, months, or even years rewriting the code and rebuilding the game from scratch.
Finally, since you are new to the forums, I would encourage you to read the Forum Code of Conduct at some point. While I understand you may not like Crepe’s answer or feel he is lying because of the fact he’s a forum MVP, your post is on the border between snarky and abusive/trolling…someone might misinterpret your post to be abusive and flag it down for moderator review.
There’s a difference between having the nerve to occasionally disagree with the “everything sucks” crowd, and being a shill or white knight for the company. We are allowed to not hate Blizzard and all its works.
The point isn’t that there were no bugs, the point is that when bugs existed they were patched over and they were so few that when one did exist, it was noteworthy…hence why you know about Corrupted Blood.
There is an obvious dip in quality. I’m sure as a white knight your glittering armor blinds you from it, but trust me it’s there. This game is now made by a subpar company. Blizzard 2019 is not Blizzard 2008.
That actually is the point. There have always been a lot of bugs. There have been more noteworthy and game-breaking bugs, than there are now. Nostalgia all you want but that is a fact. Which means that no, current game is not “worse” in terms of bugs.
It is also true that Blizzard 2008 is not Activision-Blizzard 2019.
It is also true that BfA is not overall the best expansion to date.
One thing has nothing to do with the other and that is the point being argued in this thread. Call all the names you want, it doesn’t change the facts.
Man, has GD always had Blizzard Defense Squad or what?
You know what I think it is? The playerbase who used their critical thinking skills and didn’t lap up whatever Blizzard put out without critique… this sort of player has mostly quit this dumpster fire of a game.
All that remains is the white knights who have to sate their addiction somehow.
And yet here you are, still subbed, still playing, and going all negative trying to get the attention of whatever youtube edgelord you are currently fanboying over.
I played back in Vanilla until about halfway through Wrath, took a break (went to college and started my career) and returned at the tail end of Legion when I saw the BFA trailer.
WoW has always had QA issues, but I chalked it up to it being one of the first MMOs of its kind with a huge amount of players and the internet being fairly new. Basically WoW surpassed all expectations of Blizzard and they weren’t prepared with the manpower and resources to handle it as well as they could.
10 years after Wrath, though? No excuse. Subscriber count is as low as it’s ever been, internet is as efficient as it’s ever been, and Blizzard merged with one of the biggest gaming companies (unfortunately), so team size and budget shouldn’t be the issue. (Lol yea right, give the CEO a raise!)
There’s no reason for WoW to be as unpolished as it is nowadays. Even with the terrible gameplay and mechanic choices they’ve made, they should be able to release an expansion that actually works out of the box by now… They’ve only had FIFTEEN YEARS to figure it out.
…anyway here’s hoping Classic knocks some sense into Retail and makes classes fun again. Making professions useful again would also restore my faith in the game.
I have never heard of those because they didn’t exist.
Warlords was called “Borelords of Draenor” but that’s because that expansion had many problems with it. Just as BFA does (except BFA has way more problems).
I STILL have a little heart skip whenever I ride a zepp and the loading bar pops up. Either an endless loading bar or drop to your death or both for years, all the way up into Wrath. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t fixed completely until Cata rebuilt the zepps from scratch.
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