I disagree with this statement though. Legion was pretty well received over all. Especially by the end.
This is kinda like when I really wanted to be a good surgeon.
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Matter of opinion. I know many who have the direction this game has gone and quit during Legion. The biggest impact Iāve seen ony guilds and communities has been since Legion. And even moreso now. Heck, now Iām losing a lot of addons because those people quit and arenāt updating any longer.
The massive RNG, war on flight, AP grind, lack of zones, etc wasnāt enough to keep some people around just to see what happened to Illidan.
Thatās funny actually. But it only follows him around because he still acts like a lawyer more than a game director.
(Unless you still act like a birthday party host which would be funny)
Exactly. They had no problem doing that in other areas. Fel cannons to shoot you down in BC (not to mention archers/riflemen on the town walls) and giant kaliri to chase you down. Dragons in the skies of Northrend. Heck, even in MoP they used swarms of flying insects to force you down and dismount you in one of the mantid daily areas. Things that made perfect sense in-game, didnāt stop you from flying completely, just made you actually think about the choice of taking to the air in those spots.
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Legion introduced the m+ system, which is probably the single biggest thing to happen to WoW since the introduction of flight.
The AP grind was almost such a minor issue. I never had to go out of my way in Legion or BFA to āgrindā AP.
But m+ alone increased my WoW playtime by any other thing they have ever done in their entire history. For once it gave me a reason to care about 5 man content. (outside of the brief time I cared about challenge modes in WoD).
Anything not raid content was almost always trivial, just time consuming. This changed that.
But M+ is a lot like PVP, a portion of the player base likes it, the rest of the players wish they wouldnāt spend resources on it.
I know a lot of people who hate the M+ system, though.
Noā¦ to me, AP has now defined our entire failure of a talent system and the laziness of them to not want to fix it, but instead find a cheap way of giving us some sort of traits.
Perhaps for you, but not for everyone. There are others who see it as a lazy way to create content and find it just as mind numbing as running Heroics over and over, except this time, it promoted skipping stuff and chain pulling and timers that.some people dislike.
I donāt think we can put M+ on the same level as flying for āgame changing.ā Itās rather two entirely different things.
And Iām glad that youāve enjoyed some of the aspects theyāve introduced. I mean, I am apparently one of the few that.likes Warfronts. So I get it. And if youāre enjoying it and have optimism, thatās great.
But Iām more concerned with the larger things they wonāt do that I think can help this game. To me, those are reasons why I donāt have faith in him. But thatās me.
We all see things from different views. And my groups of friends are different from yours. You find some things successful, others donāt. Makes sense. We all play for lots of different reasons!
If you hold faith in his abilities, then I respect that. 
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How can you not evaluate his work on BfA and be able to make a decision? BfA is really, really poor compared to other xpacs- most certainly failing every single comparison to Legion which is mind-blowing. He didnāt build on what worked, he actively destroyed it.
Even just the azerite system, which looks like it will be eliminated by 8.2, is a grand and total epic failure.
But you are looking at the very beginning of BFA and comparing to other complete expansions.
Legion for example was complained about a TON in its early days.
If artifact weapons were eliminated by 7.2, then sureā¦ thatās where azerite gear is headed.
Keep in mind that for some people, if itās not enjoyable now, then what did we pay to do for all this time?
I didnāt pay for all of these months to still be playing what feels like a failed class assignment that might get fixed later.
Thatās not how BC or Cata or Wrath felt to me. Heck, even Warlords had great zone content right off the bat.
Dont forget how much people hated the legendary drop system, and the issues it had initially.
Iāll be the game director ![:rofl:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/rofl.png?v=6" ":rofl:")
I can see it nowā¦
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As a shaman, its definitely how Wrath felt to me. Iād prefer the broken version of 8.0 shammies over the atrocity of WotLK shaman.
That being said, I am by no mean trying to say that BFA is fine, or doesnt need help.
It does.
I am by no meaning trying to state or imply that I have agreed with all the decisions.
The changes to enhancement shaman, for example, were all just % changes. No excuse for why they couldnt have been adjusted in a hot fix.
Yes, it wasā¦and the game was adjusted to address many of the complaints.
Then BFA walked back those fixes, watered down the things that DID work, and doubled down on the original reason for complaints. It went beyond failing to learn from Legionās mistakes to actively unlearning the lessons Legion had already learned from.
But the things people are complaining about in BFA, most have almost no relation to what was fixed in the early days of Legion. I am honestly not sure of any of them that apply. I am just assuming I am forgetting at least 1.
So I am not sure how they walked back on the fixes?