Fw nerfed too much, didn't account for future hard nerf to its pvp talent Zen Spheres

[Orabela-gurubashi]

@Fluent-emerald-dream

(Insert Any Spec) should be irreparably and permanently gutted, absolutely disgusting spec that a blindfolded ape could play to r1

applies to all specs , since the community of the vocal minority like to post , tops there are 12 people here who post in the pvp forums

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[Dyenamik-stormrage]

fw should have never made it into pvp just like tanks shouldnt be. Good riddance

[Harlen-faerlina]

@Fluent-emerald-dream

I remember when I got my first duelist and 2400 and wore my title and talked about “above 2400” nonstop as it I had a good idea of what that was really like

You’ll remember if you ever get your first kiss too, it’ll be the same feeling

[Fluent-emerald-dream (Fluent)]

something tells me the level 13 classic poster wearing a gnome mask isn’t an authority on the subject of first kisses

[Amyrii-echo-isles]

I really like the idea of fistweaving but the current design of it is an abomination. It really needs to have a cooldown of some sort and Mistweavers also need to have better defensives so they don’t flop so easily.

Wasn’t fun to face and I only played it for maybe 2 rounds in solo shuffle and felt scummy. Caster mistweaver can also be oppressive at times but I feel like it’s better designed for WoW arena.

TLDR; fistweaving needs a cooldown, and monks shouldn’t be so squishy

[Sifu-bleeding-hollow (Sifu)]

@Amyrii-echo-isles

I really like the idea of fistweaving but the current design of it is an abomination.

Yeah, fistweaving was at its best when it was just a short duration thing we could use every 2min.

Being a permanent playstyle is toxic and hard to balance

[Blinkbow-tichondrius]

DF nerf bat is corked, the buffs/redesigns are fried, and there is yet another in-game service sale going on right now!!!

[Decree-gorefiend]

floont batting straight 100 in this thread

[Vè-darkspear]

i love zen in OW so im actually very excited that they added it.

[Iol-blades-edge]

Nah man thank god that poison was nerfed. Depending the way you look at it, it’s not even enough and could take more nerfs.

It doesn’t even matter if I play with a warrior or ret and fw as my partners above 2300 cr in shuffle, or if I play against one me as a disc and the fw against me around 2k ( I’m a low mmr healer.

That thing was poison. I saw a fist doing more damage than a dps

[anon46447909]

@Remi-tichondrius

can you break down how much the primary stat increase effected the damage abilities and how much those damage abilities then contribute to healing?

or u just sayin that?

you’re right about the trinket set bonus increase but every other healer has also gained the same primary stat increase. Not sure if mw’s healing scales more with primary stat compared to other healer specs, but specifically for mw/fw no other 10.1 pvp notes show changes to its healing other than Zen Spheres which is the main concern that everyone is overlooking

@Remi-tichondrius

this is completely wrong tho

fw right now is doing so much healing that half of it is overhealing

and even before right now fw was the best healer in the game in 10.0.7 post nerf

not true. now fw is doing more healing mainly because of Zen Spheres. without the orb pvp talent they do no healing especially if you cc and kite them with their longer cocoon cd.

don’t think you realize how Zen Sphere’s dmg orb AND healing orb amplifies its healing by A LOT. we all know this pvp talent will get hardnerfed and then fw will get hard nerfed more than it needs

in 10.0.7 they were nerfed enough that only true r1 players can easily win against them. ppl that don’t chain cc, didn’t kite fw, or didn’t know how to do dmg easily lost to it obviously. only reason 10.0.7 was still doable for fw is its super short cocoon cd of less than 1m, now with the longer cocoon cd that’s not the case

[Grif-nazjatar]

Of course, but zero chance I’m not taking peaceweaver, alpha tiger, and ZS/Fae

[Axtin-stormreaver (Axtin)]

People that want fistweaver to be viable in pvp are the same kind of people that want tanks to be viable

[Buggylol-korgath (Buggylol)]

because some dev had the brain fart “let’s steal mechanics from overwatch”, and blizzard loves regurgitating the same things across their games.

[Bisscuits-moon-guard]

I play the healers that can do dps and heal at the same time. Having an impact on the game rather than just healing is fun for me. Why is disc allowed to remain in this state for almost the entirety of it’s inception, but classes like hpal and MW are continually nerfed until it isn’t the most viable strategy for them? I think tanks should only be viable in RBGs just like I think healers should be significantly nerfed in world PvP. There are things in this game that are anti-fun.

[Amyrii-echo-isles]

@Bisscuits-moon-guard

but classes like hpal and MW are continually nerfed until it isn’t the most viable strategy for them?

Melee healers are harder to balance properly. I do think blizzard should put the nail in the coffin and stop pushing them in arena. I don’t mind them in other content but arena it’s not fun

[Bisscuits-moon-guard]

And if this was the route they wanted to take I would be okay, but then all of the people who enjoy that play style would just play disc. So why does disc get the golden child treatment?

[Amyrii-echo-isles]

I’d rather have old disc back that didn’t have atonement healing so I don’t care if they got rid of that either