I believe fury warriors shouldn’t have a cooldown on Execute. It should be a staple standard to the warrior, instead of initiating something similar in terms of performance upgrades like a new ability.
Hard disagree from me. They’d have to nerf it so hard I wouldn’t even like the ability if it didn’t have a cooldown. It would barely outperform whirlwind.
This current execute fits fury significantly better than the legion version.
How is whirlwind in comparison?
Whirlwind does approximately the same damage as an angry staredown.
To be fair, when enraged my stare can crit for some intense damage sometimes. But the analogy holds, Whirlwind is either a filler or a tool for proccing our cleaving buff. You press it so much it adds up to a modest amount of our total damage, but each use is largely insignificant both in rage and damage.
Tooltip damage/rage for my execute is 33.3k and 20 rage generated (i.e. 1/4 of a 42.5k Rampage). Whirlwind meanwhile is…3 rage in single target and 5.7k damage. That’s the price of no cooldown.
So you want Execute to be nerfed into oblivion to compensate for the lack of a cooldown? Nah.
Let’s uncap Fury too while we are at it. I don’t think you understand how overpowered that would be.
No, I don’t want anything to be nerfed.
All I’m saying is the Execute ability could be adjusted to make it worthy of an actual Execute. That would involve taking away the cooldown, just IMO
I don’t really understand what you mean by this. Execute currently feels really good for Fury. When it procs off SD, or we enter Execute range, we get an ability that actually comes fairly close to Rampage in raw damage, while generating more rage than any of our other builders. We get a huge infusion of rage and an extra hard-hitting ability to fill the rotation.
What’s more, if you really want to get more from your Execute, you can go Venthyr (All the cool warriors are) and get Condemn, for even more execute goodness. Slap some Execute conduits on…I don’t know how you can’t love the ability then.
What is Venthyr?
What is the reason behind fury having a CD on execute? I didn’t know this was a thing till today.
It gives us rage instead of costing rage, with recklessness up you can rampage -> execute -> rampage 95% of the time.
Plus like it was said earlier - it hits like a truck.
For Fury, Execute generates rage as opposed to spending it. It also hits rather hard. Without a CD, why bother pushing other buttons?
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Venthyr ability, “Condemn”, lets you Execute enemies above 80% health alongside the usual sub-20% health. It also debuffs the enemy, causing them to deal less damage to the Warrior.
Are you saying you would rather Execute go back to having a rage cost for Fury? We had that in Legion and it completely replaced Rampage during the execute phase. Again, pass.
It already is. It’s one of the hardest-hitting abilities the class possesses, in every spec.
One of the shadowlands covenants. It’s very good.
I have a warrior as an alt, so I don’t play my warrior extensively.
With that said, I do agree.
I feel a spell like execute should be a hard hitting spell with a CD rather than a spell without a CD hitting like a wet noodle, because they obviously would need to nerf it if they removed the CD.
I’m super excited for this, cleaving a buffed up Condemn in mythic plus into 5 people sounds euphoric. I want to fully commit to an Executioner style warrior, it even sounds like it will be awesome to have a finisher not effected by armor in pvp too.
Execute is fine as it is, Condemned for Venthyr is like one of your best covenant choices as a Warrior and it hit hards, combined with massacre with reduction of CD as well.