Fury warrior weaker in pvp than bfa?

IDK if it’s me guys but I feel fury warrior is much weaker in 9.0 than 8.3.

I mean, I know that fury has never been the “PVP” spec but the removal of Thirst for Battle and the nerf of the bloodthirst heals, feel teeribad and now I think fury warrior is the worst spec in pvp. Even Arms has got better defensives and survival tools than fury while bringing more burst and damage.

Please:
1- Give us back Thirst for Battle
2. Give us back our heals like how it was in 8.3
3. Give us back barbarian with 2 leap charges (no 3 sec).
4. Give us baseline Double time

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We’ve never had either of these.

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lol… We had it in previous expansions

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I don’t remember ever having either of those baseline in literally any expansion

We have not.

We had a legendary that gave us 3 charges of leap in Legion - and we have one of those again. The barbarian talent came in Legion and is completely unchanged since its creation.

We’ve never had baseline Double Time; talent from day one. We used to have charge and intercept I suppose, but that was radically different.

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ok, Barbarias I was talking about talent option back sorry

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Barbarian has never given 3 charges of leap. We still have the exact same version of Barbarian we had when it was first introduced, it’s never been removed or altered.

That’s not true. Check in legion, we used to have Barbarian pvp talent which had 3 leaps charges I am sure of it. I used to love that talent so much that I got depressed when they changed it

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I did check. I do not make statements of fact without knowing 100% or looking it up first.

The talent was introduced in patch 7.0.3 in its current form. It has not changed at all. Look it up.

In Legion we also had a legendary that gave three charges of heroic leap. There is a new legendary in Legion that does the same thing.

I actually think complaining about fury pvp is the new meme of the warrior forum.

What was countless threads of SMF and glad stance is now countless threads of “Fury is bad and needs xyz to be good”

The best part is nobody can really agree on a solution to make it better or all have different ideas.

I can somewhat appreciate this thread though because at least OP did not mention giving fury MS.

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Sorry it was 2 charges, not 3 but it was much better than the :poop: we have now. look:

  • Increases the number of charges for Heroic Leap by 2, and increases the damage done by your Heroic Leap by 200%.

source: https://www.wowhead.com/spell=199148/barbarian

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Damn you’re right, the site I checked gave the wrong version.

Increasing the charges of heroic leap by 2 means +2 for 3 total, as that is written at least.

3 chargers of leap is kinda of ridiculous mobility for a plate wearing melee class…

Your ghost wolf form won’t save you now

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im pretty sure all you have to do is stand next to a shaman and they will die

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You are 100% wrong. You had could have three leaps as Fury Warrior in Legion. Legendaries didn’t work in BGs, btw. Timestamp 8:26.

edit: Okay, I see you figured it out. I’ll leave this though.

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Using the leap legendary in SL along with Barbarian gives you six back to back leaps. I only do five here, still had a leap left that I could have used.

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Wait, wait. You mean they don’t work at all in PvP? In Shadowlands, right?

Just got kited by a ghost wolf around a box for like 3 minutes in an arena

thanks never turning on war mode D: