Thought you were a dps spec? Think again, because that level 10 healer that hasn’t even spent a talent point in the spec tree yet will probably out-dps you.
The dps for a leveling fury warrior is atrociously low. I’ve been playing this game for 17 years, and I have never seen anything even close to this sorry state. I know the game is “Supposed to be balanced for max level” and I agree. But this is something else entirely. This is not a viable spec for pre-endgame content.
Because of the talent tree design, you do not have your main spender that the spec is built around, Rampage, until you’re 13 talent points in. Until then you’re perpetually capped at 100% rage or hitting off-spec trash buttons like “slam.”
And even then, when you get rampage, it’s awful. See that 13? That was a big crit.
Can you imagine paladin not having Templar’s Verdict, or rogue not having something to spend combo points?
This is a real shame, because the spec is fun mechanically—action packed, fast, zooming around. But, with the leveling experience being so undertuned, you kind of are hoping the whole time “I hope I like this spec some day, when I have already leveled and geared.”
From the perspective of people that have already played it, yea maybe. However let’s not completely ignore the new player experience and how they are, and should be, eased into specs, especially ones as fast and frenetic as fury.
That’s the exact reason why Fury should get it’s main spender much earlier. Imagine people learn for 27 levels to spend their resource with Slam or maybe even not to spend their resource at all.
For a new player who doesn’t look up outside info it could be confusing which spender to use. It would make much more sense to give fury access to rampage within the first 15 levels.
Read the forums and you’ll see how little people know about even their main specs.
I have, it felt terrible. And these xp buffs aren’t going to last forever. What then, we just have a spec that doesn’t work until 60? You’re fine with that?
You’re all fine with a class being terrible until 60? Having to have a bad time playing until you get there?
(and it’s longer than three hours btw I just spammed dungeons with Whee Buff and Anniversary and Winds. You’ve prob had this warrior for a while so you really just don’t know.)
You can defend fury’s lack of functioning for a few hours of gameplay all you want, but this doesn’t exist with other specs… rogue has eviscerate, paladin has TV, from early on.
We shouldn’t accept that a spec just doesn’t work until you’re a few hours in. That’s poor design.
Fury is an easy spec. Build rage–> Rampage (repeat with enrage). It’s probably one of the easiest specs in the game. It should be working in proper order.
But that was only the first part. The spec is massively undertuned. Try leveling a fury warrior.
This does not exist with any other spec. Poor design.
I’m not a new player, I’ve leveled many dif toons over the last 17 years, including 2 warriors. Prepatch DF fury is something worse than just bad. It does not work. Go ahead, try it.
Prob lying, you’re not leveling a fury warrior right now. It does not work.
And I agree the game should be balanced around endgame, but it’s not laughably silly (redundant) to point out that one spec can’t function. Sorry, but levels 1-59 is still part of the game, it’s a fair criticism.
Well feel free to disagree, but you sound pretty smug on here, like you think you’re some appraiser of opinions, pointing out the one’s you think are “not worthy of my response” and not. Lol. I’m sure you’re a fury master.
Matter-of-fact, but how you choose to label it is of no consequence to me. Funny though coming from the person that thought declaring how long they’ve been playing gave them authority.
I only adressed it when you brought it up a second time and in direct conversation with me. I was happy to just ignore it.
Never said i was, nor is experience necessary when discussing how it feels to level one.
I didn’t think it gave me “authority”—it gives context: having leveled many characters over many iterations of the game and this is the worst one.
But you haven’t even offered much of an opinion at all anyway. You’ve just said “No it’s not!” to everything. I’m just saying it’s weird you would interject so much to tell us which opinions are worthy or not without offering your own.
You said you thought it felt bad and was broken. I said it felt fine and wasn’t broken at all. I even went on to talk about the new player perspective. How is that not an opinion? My opinion is you’re wrong. Is that clear enough for you?
Oh yeah, it’s clear you think everyone’s wrong but I’m just saying you haven’t explained why, you’ve just been smug in telling everyone else their opinions are too lowly. Here’s a sampling of quotes by you
" To the forums! Lmao
I hope this post is a joke but sadly i fear it isn’t"
“Imagine thinking replacing the little slam icon on your bar with the little rampage icon was going to break ppls brains…”
“Not for anyone working with more than one brain cell.”
“no argument that tries to just invalidate someone by achievement checking.”
“You’ve reached new hights of pathetic with this gem of a reply”
“I ignored this part the first time because it deserves no attention. Its [sic] laughably silly.”
“But it IS silly to suggest fury doesnt function, which is what I [sic] did.”
“No it isn’t.”
My thesis is: A main spender is fundamental part of a builder/spender spec. Fury, unlike other builder/spenders, does not have its spender, the core component of its design, for many levels. That, combined with the fact that fury does next to no damage, makes it an unviable spec in pre-60 content and a generally bad leveling experience.
Let me guess, “No.”
Is the main spender somehow not integral to Fury so that it may be considered functioning without it? Are we using different definitions of “functioning” perhaps? What about fury feels alright to you?
You’re talking about leveling. Can you level with it? Yes, absolutely, unequivocally, objectively, yes you can. That makes it viable for leveling. Can you kill things and quest and do dungeons without rampage? Again, objectively, yes you can.
Viable: capable of working successfully; feasible
You say it’s not fun and a bad leveling experience. That’s subjective. There’s nothing to argue. You don’t have fun with yours, i have fun with mine, it’s really that simple. I don’t know how many more ways to say this.
Good class design takes leveling into account and slowly trains it’s players by giving them the core rotation then adding onto it via talents or new abilities.
That fact of the matter is that we should get our core rotation by level 20 or level 10 if blizzard would ever let us choose our specs at the start.
Slam only exists for fury to use as a spender until rampage. After that it’s kicked to the curb.
Do you see the problem? We have a ability that literally exists to tide us over until we can get our main spender.
