A few questions on the fury rotation, I really seem to be struggling. Just hit 369, and had a look at some other warriors and my stats seem ok.
Rotationally, I am messing up I am pretty sure. I have read the icy veins guide and such, but maybe some clarification.
While enraged, if yopu have enough fury to rampage again, should you? Or wait until Enrage is done before you rampage again?
This is probably the main part. I just get enraged from a rampage - should I then raging blow > Dragons Roar > BT?
I read should not use both our RB charges, is that accurate, or should I keep it at 0 charges especially during enrage?
I assume you can hold off on siegebreaker a little bit so that you can use siegebreaker then have a buffed rampage or raging blow? Or should I just siegebreaker whever its off of CD?
Thanks for any help, Im gonna go whack on the raiding dummy for a while.
i would just logout and make a new character. warriors are trash. meanwhile monks kick and punch you harder in plate then what you do with actual weapons
Well, arms is. Fury is good. Prot is top tier, at least.
Are you learning? Just rampage whenever you can. Holding Rampage to extend enrage for more uptime is, if done perfectly, less than a 100 dps gain. That’s, to put it lightly, very small.
There’s not a set rotation. It’s a priority list. follow the priority.
BT without enrage > Raging blow when at 2 stacks > BT with enrage > Dragon Roar > Raging blow at one stack > Whirlwind
You use it in the priority. If you have nothing but one charge or WW available, hit it. Enrage has nothing to do with it.
SB on cd, always. The only reason to ever hold it is if adds are spawning in ~10 seconds. You can pool rage a little beforehand, to rampage immediately. But only so long as you do not overcap.
If you have the ability to Rampage, you should use Rampage 99% of the time. Rampage works out to 30% to 35% of my total damage done. The entire spec is built around the concept of building rage to dump with Rampage. Places you should hold up a spell would be Execute if Enrage is down, but even then I wouldn’t hold it longer than a GCD.
Generally speaking, we hit our abilities when they’re up. Trying to micromanage your cooldowns isn’t going to gain you much besides a headache. Fury is supposed to be a balls-to-the-wall spec. Play it that way.
You never want to be out of enrage while at the same time cap on rage, you will fall out of it from time to time you got to do everything you can to keep it active. With talents like carnage making rampage only 75 rage it gives you more wiggle room to spend a second or 2 more in your current enrage before you rampage again. However, using that rage is more important.
Priority list goes as followed after enraging. Bloodthirst (if 2 seconds or less left on enrage) > Siegebreaker > Execute > Dragon Roar (in groups) > Raging blow x2 > Dragon Roar (solo) and of course add a Whirlwind every 2 attacks for aoe
Chances are one will proct the free one and if not your 2nd one will, so use them both. A lot of people are concern about not having them up but with 1100+ haste you will have them back up next “rotation” around, just use them them.
Got this one right on the nail, better to hold off for a couple of seconds to get the most damage on ramage and the seconds after then just popping it to pop it.
Trying to write out a priority list with both aoe and single target in mind is an awful idea, mate. Especially considering AoE is the exact same priority as single target, just with a ww cast every third GCD.
Chances are? It’s a 20% chance. That’s not exactly reliable.
From my experience, over ur questions:
1.- always rampage (like 99%) if it’s up, is your main damage skill and will extend enrage if available… u still have the chance to proc rampage again in the next gcd, so is not worth to wait for it.
2.- if 2 stacks of raging, go for it… still i almost every time use dragons roar if im enraged and cd is up. u get the benefit to spend it and have it back sooner.
3.- priorities on skills were written above. yet, to simplify it, try always to spend it b4 it gets to 2 stacks… it happens it normally means that u got rampage or execute procs, use cds or WW.
4.- normally every 2 Siegebreaker u will line it up with recklessness… depending on haste or azerite that will de sync it a lil bit, from my experience is that i tend to hold SB up until i have a full recklessness so i can take most advantage of it (same with Dragons roar, i may be holding it a lil bit to line those 3 cds).
As it was said, the spec is rly easy in terms that u have priorities over specific rotations, that’s what it makes it pretty fast to play.
And also, always when AOE apply WW every 2 single target skills (siegebreaker, rampage, RB, BT, execute)… that will skyrocket ur overall dps on pulls.
There is so much wrong here. You never hold SB, unless adds are spawning (that will live for at least 10 seconds) in the next ~10 seconds. With an RF trait, you hold Reck for SB, not the other way around.
And DR does, not, matter. You never hold anything for DR, and you certainly don’t use it on CD.
It’s very easy, yet you still manage to have multiple things wrong in how you go about it.
No, if there’s more than one target in range, cleave every ability, by using whirlwind every third GCD. If there is only one target, that’s obviously single target and you play it as standard.
i started my post saying it was my point of view and how things were working best for my little experience.
If u want to help, try to be more friendly and correct ppl to get better, rather than just say incorrect, it means nothing, etc.
Also, can we have your logs to get how things are done correctly to improve?
@drezwazluz is a troll (get it) and while some of his info is correct, but the rest is obvious to see that he doesn’t really know what he is talking about 100%. Ex - if you don’t know how to switch your skills priority from single target to multi-target you haven’t been playing warrior for long.
Take whatever he says with a very small grain of salt.
Drez’s personality certainly isn’t for everyone, but his knowledge of the class and the correctness of the information he’s presenting is simply indisputable. If you disagree with anything he’s said in this thread, go research the class until you realize your mistake.
