I lost mine after 2 days lel
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Best part is, based on what they write they are 100% more credible then you are.
And you havenât? Yet its easy and anyone can do it.
Its either that or we listen to people like you, ones more harmful to my brain then the other.
Telling you you are wrong is not a negative thing, its neutral at best.
You do realize hes using this number as a pointer to illustrate that you have no knowledge whatsoever.
F me I am not deconstructing the rest of that, Iâd be here for hours
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So the 5th member appears.
And instead of proving points, its just âYou are wrong, because you areâ nonsense.
Here is a challenge, prove me wrong instead of just saying you are wrong. Because its basic BS.
Modern WoW community never seems to amaze me.
Lets see who liked your comment⌠oh what a surprise.
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Personally I prefer to listen to whatâs supported by verifiable evidence. But what do I know. Iâm sure all that mathy nerd crap is just so much smoke in the wind.
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You have to prove it to yourself. Literally log on and go play a few arenas. You canât talk about whatâs wrong with the game when you donât even play it. Hush.
And you actually just sound like youâre mad that you canât get any likes because you have no idea what youâre even talking about and weâre getting likes because weâre actually trying to tell you something useful but youâre still refusing the facts.
Just because multiple people disagree with you doesnât make them something of a âgangâ or whatever. This is a forum. Somebody posts something. Someone else agrees with it. Simple as that. We all just so happen to agree that youâre absolutely lost as to how the game currently works and weâre trying to help but itâs hard to help someone who wonât help themself.
Log on, play 10 games, and get back to us with your thoughts.
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Go to my OG post in this thread, and tell me why my post is wrong and why burst is needed for Fury PvP? Than will talk. Also who says i donât do arena on maybe another account? 
What are you exactly saying thatâs useful? Explain why Fury needs more burst than utility?
Its the same old group of you liking and following each other, donât think others are stupid Mr Rogue.
I shouldnât have to break it down for you. If you played at all you would understand.
Literally everyone else in this thread understands what Iâm saying and why Iâm saying it when I say fury sucks because it does no damage in PvP.
I have played and its why i choose utility over burst. Burst damage isnât the answer to everything.
Agree to disagree.
Tell me, how would you increase burst damage for Fury?
I gave a small solution of offering a Glyph that swaps out Bloodthirst healing for a Healing Reduction, something that is easily implemented and isnât too OP, whats your solution?
The problem with your solution is that it wouldnât solve anything and would actually only present more issues for fury. Self healing is about the only thing fury has going for it in PvP. And even that is bad in arenas with dampening.
Fury damage is awful in PvP. But it queues well into certain things because they can maintain high uptime on target. Those certain thingsâŚare mostly clothies and leather wearers because, well, they do more damage to them than mail and plate.
Iâll draw a relation to PvE so the other warriors can confirm this. Fury is pretty conpetitive in PvE right? Would it still be competitive without their best trait, CSHB? And what about all that crit that they stack to maximize value from CSHB? How valuable would that crit be if CSHB did 50% damage, and critical strikes in general only did 150% instead of 200%? Fury would be at the bottom of the meters, would it not?
Thatâs what fury is plagued with right now in PvP. The one trait that makes them competitive, slashed. And the stat they have to stack to even make that trait worth it, slashed. So your best option is literally stacking haste and vers and going with less than BiS traits because theyâre actually better in PvP.
I donât know what my solution would be. Itâs hard to say with corruptions and essences and so many factors in the game. On top of that, you couldnât buff fury damage too much because they literally have almost 100% uptime. Itâs a slippery slope.
I suspect fury to be better in shadowlands than it is now, though still not great, because CSHB and furyâs reliance on crit is going out the window, so the majority of damage wonât come from some trait thatâs nerfed, and you wonât be forced to stack a stat thatâs nerfed in PvP either.
Well thatâs an answer iv been waiting for. Definitely better than âYou are wrongâ post.
Sure i agree Fury is in a pickle because its up time is almost 100% so buffing dmg will only make things harder to balance.
Personally Fury has too much self healing, not a bad thing to have, however it wouldnât hurt to remove some of it and add something else.
My issue with Fury is its a very 1 dimensional spec, basically Hit and self heal. Aside from the usual default Stun and silence most other classes have, their isnât anything much else to the spec.
My Glyph idea wont fix Fury, however it just adds another string to a very basic bow and can help keep Fury a little bit more valuable in RBGs and Arenas instead of being forced to switch to Arms.
One reason i prefer Arms over Fury is its a spec with more to do than just âin your face dmgâ The bleeds do actually add another string to the dmg as well as offering the best in house Healing Reduction and abilities like D-stance which hunkers the Warrior etc. Add Shattering Throw from Shadowlands and you have a Warrior with a lot of utilities and benefits to a raid or team.
Fury lacks options to me, maybe you all donât agree but its something i find lacking with the spec, everything is automatic and streamline, their is really no thinking behind the spec which sort of makes sense to the lore. Its why i like the idea of SMF coming back because it adds another option with benefits like adding movement speed increases by going 1hs or having more HP by using 2hs.
Well then since you clamored Bâckstabbath had to post on his warrior, after making such a claim its only natural for you to post on that character then
Please donât, iâd rather not have nightmares, we are already middle of the pack enough as is.
Literally an answer any competent warrior who knows how pvp works would know.
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Whatâs wrong with mid-pack? You arenât so broken that youâre useless, you arenât so powerful that Blizzard must bring the hammer down, and thereâs plenty of room for you to show off your individual capabilities in your own raid other totally relevant content raid team.
Nothing usually but when you look at how the top classes perform compared to middle of the pack, its scary to think of being worse currently.
Fury warrior had MS it was back in CATA when it was like chance of your autoattack applying a debuff why not on a PVP talent that just goes on your raging blow a passive?
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Furious Attacks Your auto attacks have a chance to reduce all healing done to the target by 25% for 10 sec. As the PVP Talents rn when they removed how Spell reflect did all the spells now itâs only one as a baseline this seems to be viable if you want root removal(Idk why they remove thirst for battle kind stupid) and Demolition now.
Just because fury had an MS âthat one timeâ a decade ago doesnât mean thatâs what it needs now.
Trust me, this game does not need more homogenization. Iâd be happy if MS was still an arms only thing. Fury could have an MS right now and still be awful. Fury needs higher damage more than anything right now.
Have you seen the DHâs new PVP talent that literally gives them MS thatâs even worse but yea in terms of PVP damage and scaling fury need more damage it seems really I mean REALLY low damage and canât keep pressure at all which if I remember correctly MOP and WOD had arms and fury competing.
I have seen it, and donât really mind. They have to sacrifice mobility to keep MS uptime. DHs have also seen some of the worst nerfs going forward into SL, so I donât think itâll be a big deal.
And I donât think fury and arms were that close in MoP and WoD. Arms was always pretty ahead.
In fact, even that short time that fury did have MS, it was still pretty bad.
True, I think for both classes could co exist but as it is right now itâs pretty bad, 8.3 had me a fury warrior have to stack gushing wounds to have any sort of pressure with the drest trinket to accommodate with the damage.
Problem is though DH could be all over the place right now we see theyâre pretty nerfed but when those tuning process comes into play theyâre suddenly doing more damage than Fury or arms? (Which I joked in BFA they literally stole Furyâs role due to their DPS like insanely higher with few buttons)
Fury was more fun in MOP and WOD there was fury glads in play with the set bonuses they lacked the MS but their damage was really high and insane which could be nice with Arms in 3v3 as well when they burst on one person or another MS class.
I would say the furious strike would be a suggestion and something they could change up rather highly and mix up the playstyle in order for âthatâ to work I mean we already got a useless slam ability anyway.
Just wanted to add. This is not the arena forums, if i wanted to brag about arena ratings, ill be doing that in the Arena forums. This is a Warrior thread about ⌠Warriors. Just saying.