Frustration with VElves and Nightborne

I know you don’t like the reasoning and I can completely understand the frustration but lorewise that’s how it worked out and it makes sense, but personally I don’t understand why there isn’t some type of unified elven language or even politically why they don’t have ambassadors within each elf city I mean we are all elves and granted we don’t see eye to eye we have worked together numerous times.

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I have been vocal in my hatred of Thralls Horde ever since conversing with Drek’thar in Hillsbrad.

You could not, however, get me smashed enough to believe that Thralls Horde had a fraction of the unsustainablity and insanity of the Dark Horde. I am critical about the lens they choose to view the past with, I do not however think they are in any way EMULATING the past.

There is a blood elf/Nightborne dig site in Zandalar that really illustrates why the Nightborne went with the belves.

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Its my honest belief that Void Elves were given to the Alliance in an attempt to cater to the High Elf crowd, and as the alliance was given the blood elf model they gave the night elf model in the form of Nightborne to the Horde.

I just can’t imagine the average night elf having the patience to teach a nightborne how to use a shovel, without relying on any magic. Though that would be funny to watch…

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Its funny how Treng will argue with me about things he normally would agree with lol.

Looks at the former Dark-Horde members fighting alongside the Horde since Cata. Looks at Garrosh’s actions in Pandaria, Ashenvale, and Theramore. Looks at Sylvanas plague bombing everything, mind controlling newly raised undead, enslaving angelic beings, and burning Teldrassil.

Huh…

Looks at Akiyass once again strawmanning the argument into an oversimplification that fails to mention elements such as the fact that Garrosh Hellscreams Horde made up a small fraction of the population and even then rejected Fel Magic outright or that said Dark Horde elements essentially had to be stripped of anything resembling their former allegiance to the Dark Horde before joining and only really represent the Dark Horde in the capacity that they both included blackrock orcs.

Color me shocked.

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Looks at the Horde actively using Fel in slash and burn tactics in Ashenvale

Huh

Look man, I don’t have time to deal with you and Treng’s personal vendetta against me. In fact, I think it’s funny how Horde players get annoyed about how their faction is villainized in the story, but as soon as an alliance player points out that they have been villainized, they kick and scream “NO WE HAVN’T!”

Let me stop you right at the first sentence, because that was addressed early on in Ashenvale.

Garrosh Hellscream nearly executes you on the spot for using Fel in splintertree post, and forbids it’s use from then on out. It was a plan cooked up outside the high commands knowledge.

Perhaps you should read about things before writing about them.

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I mean, I am not going to tell you to read Wolfheart because it’s a horrible novel. But read Wolfheart.

Which part specifically?

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Lol, sorry dude. I don’t have time for you, and honestly just wish you would stop baiting me into these unending flame wars with you. Not doing it this time. Bye.

So you only have the time to be snarky, but not enough time to back up your points?

Sounds about right, honestly.

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Well it IS played out and done to death since the days of both Tolkien, Warhammer, AND Moorcock.

But Blizzard’s elves are hardly homogenized. There are a lot of differences between the four player races of elves in the game, and the Night Elves culturally still stand out from the other three in particular.

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I mean, I could, but I am not going to. Not for you. I don’t respect you enough, and I am walking away from you. I have no desire to ever speak to you again.

I am well aware of your lack of respect, you’ve mentioned it multiple times. Much like how you’ve mentioned multiple times you’re walking away from the conversation and that you have won the argument because…reasons.

Credit where credit is due, of the three declarations I actually believe that one, so at least you’re not a completely endless stream of nonsense.

Then again, broken clocks.

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Ehhhh, I mean, I’ll grant you that the Nelves are the least human-esq of other Wow Elves, but anyone who says their culture hasn’t been getting gutted since WC3 is delusional IMO.

They have a culture… the same culture as the Blood and High Elves. They’re exiles from that culture. And by the way, if Nightbourne characters make it out of the Nighthold and dare to venture into greater Suramar, they’re killed on sight. So they don’t really “have” anything of Suramar outside of that enclave, and access to Shal’ aran. Which is about the same amount of area that the Void Elves have.

Canonically, all of Suramar is pacified. The mobs remain for people who want to do the quest content.

I’d say since WoW launched. They decided to put the Night Elves on the Alliance, went, “But the High Elves fit better,” and said, “Well, let’s just make the Night Elves act like the High Elves; dependent on their human allies to survive and so grateful to them for it. Amazons running mostly naked through the woods? Nah. Less stalking cat graceful, more lady in a dress graceful.”