Frost thoughts

So with the way runes are now and with our artifact ripped away with only 2 traits that came over.

So I have an idea to have runes not be on the 3 at a time to recharging as soon as you use them. To me it’s less downtime along with Runic emp recharging all runes on cooldown instead of just 1

And I’ve been told this is bad so I’m out of simple ideas

So how would the rest of you go about fixing our downtime

blizzard is already proposing the fix on ptr by buffing runic empowerment and doubling breath of sindragosas chance to proc it.
more RE procs = more runes to fuel your rotation = less downtime.

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Yup the ptr has some significant buffs to our regen. It should feel a lot better outside of BOS.

The only problem is that now BOS can fall off super easily so you can’t use HB proc’ s unless you are above 50 RP. It also makes Dragon and Cold Heart maximizing a little annoying.

Try it out on the PTR and leave feedback for them.

I kind of like the downtime. I use it to think about how stupid dual wield frost is, and how I want a 2 hander back, and how I wish my class mount was a wolf and not a horse, and what the inside of my nose smells like.

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I really dislike using breath

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ah yeah i know about that

anyway i give up

I didn’t realise they increased the cost of BoS along with the changes until you mentioned this. I recall them mentioning about nerfing it slightly just to keep it in line with the rp generation buffs but didn’t realise the actual changes.

Realistically they added a 1.5% increase to proc Runic Empowerment from BoS (0.5% base line plus 1% for the 50% increased chance it grants), whilst increasing the rp cost to 18/s. So all up for that 18 rp you have a 27% additional chance to proc empowerment, but you are using up 3 extra rp/s.

So every 6s you need to be casting an extra Oblit than you would currently be casting. With 27% increased chance you are looking at 162% additional chance to get empowerment procs during those 6s, which isn’t quite the 2 rune resets you need, most likely just the one.

Seems pretty steep and reliant on luck compared to pre cost increase, because obviously you drain quicker ~5-6s from full.
I can see why you wouldn’t want to weave in any reduced generators or abilities that didn’t grant rp during that time, those GCDs are really valuable.
Even with an Oblit every GCD (without haste) you are gaining 40 rp and losing 54, 45 is more manageable with Runic Attenuation and Frost Fever’s rp generation.

Ironically the slower style of current Frost DK makes you wonder why it’s duel wield not 2H in the first place…

Because the GCD change/slow down was game-wide and independant from the design of the spec. We were plenty fast in terms of attacks throughout Legion.

Pretty sure its a dragon you get in legion. The horse you get in the scenario is a starter horse. A little reminder we are with acherus now.

It gets replaced by a flying skeleton as soon as you can afford the 900g for it. And they get replaced with the deathlords dragon.

Personally, if i was uh, i would just rock the headless horseman mount.

But that does nothing for your dislike of horses. So go dragon. Its got your eternal resting place on his spine and a got tribute saddle.

so mercelus combat our boring exacute at 35% when we did some more damage got me thinking

what if soul reaper was brought back for frost and was a passive baked into our abilities

or would you rather have it as a separate ability