This isn’t going to be a plea for Blizzard to fix things because that won’t happen. I just want opinions from people on the state of Frost DK.
I played a little bit of Frost DK in prepatch and although the numbers are better it still feels so bad to play. I have come to a personal conclusion that I think Frost needs a complete redesign or some heavy handed changes at least.
Personally I would start with removing Pillar of Frost (as it’s currently designed) and removing the killing machine mechanic entirely… Or at the very least make all obliterates hit as though you consumed killing machine during Pillar of Frost, or give Obliterate a small amount of range during Pillar.
I think Chill Streak, while strong, is very boring and it’s just another GCD we have to stack on top of the pillar window.
I would also get rid of every single talent that revolves around auto attacks… Even dual wielding that just feels so boring to me.
I will note, I’m basically just a PvPer and not super hard-core either so if you think my ramblings are nonsense or stupid then let it be known, but I’m curious what y’alls thoughts are
Frost To me feels quite clunky yeah, specially without double ERW or a properly reworked ERW and a lot of things that don’t hit for much. But it’s a lot better then before a lot more fun.
Granted I could just be playing badly.
At any rate a lot of people has already said ideas for frost including myself.
I personally like the current iteration of Frost and this section feels like it would make it play too much like meta for DH where you use your CD and now you ability is just better. Removing these interactions would also remove a lot of skill expression that I personally like. I’m actually quite happy to be moving back to a BFA style of play where its largely about maintaining as much uptime of PoF and Enduring STR. I just wish we could also get the machine gun whelps from back in the day.
Agreed. It sucks. I have never like it in any iteration.
I like Icy death torrent making your positioning important for cleave personally, and not all talents need to be exciting IMO.
At the risk of assuming this may be tinting your view of frost overall because its just so underwhelming in PVP and doesn’t have a niche of its own like UH does. It will probably feel better with the hero talents giving you a strong CD in Reapers Mark or insane mobility with Rider. I also think frost will feel a lot better in BG blitz than arena in TWW.
Frost is actually in a good spot PVE wise, it isn’t too high in damage to take nerfs, we could get some buffs around the second season.
I hate the way they won’t let frost go up in PvP though. I blame the top arena teams for being scared to face it and a little bit blizzard for listening to them.