Why not 10%? Frostbite for pvp and pve, frostbolt castable while moving since it hits like a wet noodle, and rune should be an aura not symbol on ground.
A cc class should do low damage since their real strength is their cc.
That’s probably the direction they’re taking.
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Frost mages don’t even have a stun anymore and every class is so mobile now. They’ve lost that CC niche.
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Well we know that, but they don’t.
Frost is a terribly designed spec, whether it was OP (like in Beta) or useless (like now) won’t change that fact.
Blizzard realized having the strongest mage spec be the one that can be played by a concussed moron wasn’t a good idea.
The spec is literally frost bolt till you get a proc, spend proc, repeat. At least fire has to fire blast weave on heating up, and arcane has burn and conserve phases to manage.
Anyone who was dumb enough to think Frost was going to end up the strongest mage spec while also being brain dead easy to play was kidding themselves.
Do you think pushing fireblast is any different than pushing flurry to get a proc? Pretending like combustion is difficult or fireblast weaving is somehow difficult is funny.
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In comparison? Yes absolutely.
Fire blast can be cast in conjunction with other spells, meaning you need to weave it in-between fireball hits when heating up procs. During combustion it’s obviously easier cause 100% crit but outside of combustion windows there is some nuance to your priority system.
And really? Are we gonna pretend Icy Veins has ANY interaction whatsoever? Literally zero interaction with the rotation.
Hell Frost Mage guides will even tell you that you will waste procs constantly and THAT’S OK. The spec is literally designed to be idiot proof. How is that ok? How is it ok to have a rotation so badly designed that even if you miss or overwrite procs that’s working as intended?
At least fireblast you’re penalized if you spend them badly.
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Um… BM from BFA wasn’t exactly rocket science to play and was the best spec?
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Yes and thank god blizzard took the same nerf bat to them and made MM the dominant spec as it should have been. Also let’s be specific BM was only the strongest in Nyalotha cause of corruption.
Balance Druids this tier aren’t exactly rocket science either… I like some of your points, but strength of spec based on complexity isn’t one of them.
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Because fire blast can be cast in conjunction makes it easier to play. It’s literally spam fireball or scorch + fireblast And pyro. Nothing even remotely difficult. And then practice combustion for 10 minutes and you can get 95% out of fire.
At least you can’t accidentally munch pyro instants unless you override them With another blast and waste
You play a wut again???
Just be better
Welcome to the club.
what in the world are you talking about lol. Purpose of Mage is doing damage, period.
Like I have said in other threads, they need to make the last talent row viable again and not just have the whole spec be ice lance spam. It’s boring. Bring Glacial Spike back and it would help a lot. Do something like, triple damage to single target, on 2 targets, damage split evenly. That would help the lacking single target damage as well.
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I’m just trying to understand the balance team’s point of view.
Do I agree with it? Hell naw. Doing no damage sucks lol.
Everything.
Really?
Imagine playing VDH and best pvp attack is auto attack and 75% of your abilities are avoidable(Yet, doesn’t need to be avoid because they actually hit like nothing)
. Then you get 50% reduced for defs. So, then technically you are a dps that can take a hit by pvp standards go.
So, then all you can do is go havoc/hunt to do other content. Then you will be lacking in other content.
Choices… VDH BGs as flag runner and pve.
Havoc mythic 10 below, Arena if u went hunt, BGs ok, raids not going to be a top pick. Havoc has slightly better options but then it goes back to a lack of tanks.
The only tank that can do all content is a prot Paladin(That is good). Yea, Mage’s have it hard.
I think the “only difficult specs should be good” mindset is problematic. Some players want a complex rotation; some players want a simple rotation. Both sets deserve competitive DPS.
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I want to believe this but Druids have great movement and decent CC as well as crazy off-healing. Balance is OP by such a large margin that a 50 parsing balance druid in mythic is the same as a 75+ parsing player of almost every other spec.
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