Frost mage against rogue

Would like to know what to do about rogues in bgs as a frost mage. If I catch them before they kill me in 2 seconds, they just run away. Then come back later to kill me. I try to find them with arcane blast but I swear their vanish makes them immune for some time?

I can use both trinket and ice block to survive them but they just run the frick away. I have no idea what to do against them and it is beyond infuriating.

Not too much you can do there. As frustrating as it is, rogues are supposed to be annoying. It’s just what they do.

dont trinket till the kidney shot

don’t get shimmer, use blink to break stuns, get ice floes to land polies/ray of frost while you moving, macro ice floes with blink.

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Yeah. The sooner you learn how to play with ice floes, the better your matchup against rogues is going to get. Doesn’t mean you’ll win against the good ones though, but you’ll make for an annoying fight, and that’s really the best you can do sometimes.

If you’re fighting a duelist geared rogue, and you’re like 20 ilvl under him, you won’t be able to do anything. So don’t be upset when these crush you.

I switched to Necrolord, and the extra shield has helped me quite a bit in fights against some of the tougher melee opponents. Most websites will tell you that necrolord is crap for frostmages, but they may be wrong.

If they engage with cheap shot, you blink immediately and pop ice form, you cast a frostbolt on them. Generally they will try to kick it. You can juke it, but you can also allow it to then cast a polymorph. This will force them to vanish/cloak of shadows/blind/shadowmeld, or trinket the sheep.

If they answer with a trinket, you frost nova to force them to use another cooldown. Generally they will drop a smoke bomb. You can put a ring of frost around the rogue to force him to shadowstep you again. The moment they do, you alter time, and start pressuring. The rogue will vanish or blind.

At that point, if it’s a duel, you’re in a good spot. If it’s not a duel, the rogue will generally give up, because he wasted a lot without getting you to pop ice block.

(That’s how it generally goes)

But against a duelist rogue with a lot of gear and burst. The rogue will just throw cooldowns at you really quickly and pressure you into using ice block really early because of the 20k eviscerate spam, and you will lose the moment the iceblock breaks.

I hope this gives you some clues. :slight_smile:

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tyvm. this is so complicated lol. its why i like wow pvp so much but it can be pretty overwhelming at times haha

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1 on 1 there’s nothing you can do to a rogue with a brain and good iLvl. Also there’s no such thing as a 20k eviscerate. 10k at the very best, and only during the opener with every single offensive cooldown used.

I’d play with a healer.

Posts the usual the game isn’t balanced around 1vs1 post, when the rogue gets the jump on any class they’re usually stuffed anyway. (without major cds).

I don’t play a FM but does Frost Orb damage stealthies?

It should! This is why I took to the forums lol. Pretty much forget that exists in the heat of battle with a rogue lol.

Also if rogues are very annoying for you, you can always take Ice Form for big memies

rogues aren’t a nightmare at least for me, i don’t discuss theres some really good players but there’s some good players playing every class/spec

druids are worst by far for me, everything they have denies everything a frost mage can do against a melee: poly, snares and roots.

fleshcraft, triune and ice floes are what you need to face rogues, blink is a trinket for stuns every 15-12 seconds,save it for that, and use ice cube to restore hp only

Good feral druids are a real issue for sure. I’d also add blood death knights to the list of really really tough matchups.

Rogue if both players have similar ilvl are kind of evenly matched, with a slight advantage for the rogue, as the rogue can kind of decide if the goes on or not.

Another really really bad matchup is demonology warlock. If you know how to beat them as frost, props to you. Because I don’t have a clue. The amount of tools they have to mess you up is insane.