Frost is yet again terrible. Not even worth playing if you want to push high level keys. Thoughts?

It was a ST raid boss.

I’ve been able to get 1.51m as frost but it really is dependent on your group and how much your tank pulls. Frost does pretty ok damage but its super safe for the tank to kite with all the slows and roots.

I love frost fire (frost). Can’t wait till I can be a dracthyr mage. Arcane is ok. I play it only when I get bored. Wish fire did more damage. Maybe with the frostfire buffs Fire spec will be used more by players.

Frost performance is completely fine. In fact, no mage spec is bad right now, and if anything frost is one of the better performers, basically tied to arcane if not slightly better.

Their AOE and St damage is insane, as long as the enemies are packed and the tank is not moving around like a madman frost AOE will be extremely good, even superior to arcane.

Arcane has only the advantage of burst.

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Frost actually has really good ST right now. Arcane is good but starts to fall down the meters in long/ movement heavy fights. Fire does well with adds and longer fights. I would say frost is a safe and pretty mobile spec. Frostfire frost just needs those buffs asap

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Arcane is abysmal in PVP.
Other than priest, it is the spec with the most telegraphed casting. Additionally, you have to chain telegraphed hardcasts to do meaningful damage. During that time any kick cripples you and destroys the setup, being as your defensives are almost all arcane.

In PVE, arcane rocks like no one else can when you drop those CDs. You rocket to the top.
In PVP, you have to do a discouraging amount of hardcasting to do mediocre damage - if you manage to get away with it.

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