Frost: Frostfire - unexpectedly fun!

Since the changes to frost Spellslinger has felt lackluster to play, so I decided to try Frostfire as Frost is my personal preferred spec. I have to tell you I’m rather enjoying it.

All the added visual interactions with spells makes pressing these spells feel really fulfilling. It even makes spamming Frostfire Bolt for Deathchill not feel like a chore and I’m having a blast again.

Anyone else been playing around with Frostfire and having fun?!

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I like it too, both because it has good visuals and flow and because it makes me feel like a proper archmage that utilizes all 3 spell schools (Fire and Frost for damage, Arcane for mobility / utility). I just wish it would be properly balanced with Spellslinger in PVE to be on its level unlike last months (and both trees competitive enough with other classes too). Maybe Blizzard could balance both these hero specs via making Frostfire slightly stronger in AoE (as it has lots of cleaving effects) and Spellslinger slightly stronger against 1 enemy (since its Splinters and Splinterstorms are mostly single-target focused), so that both specs would have their pros / cons and niches, but they should be still competitive with each other in their unfavored profiles too.

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I so wish they would get FF up to par as it’s the most visually appealing of the mage hero talents

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Solo play I find it’s killing faster than Spellslinger after the changes and I feel somehow tankier?

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I’ve been playing FF-Frost all expansion so far because I very much disliked SS. I do wish FFF had a little more oomph to it, but overall I’m dealing (although, I’ve yet to bother with m+ this season, where I feel like it’d fall off horribly - I’ll eventually get around to it)

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Frostfire Fire is also incredibly weak compared to SF for fire, they just need to pump more damage into the tree in general.

my only issue with frost fire is that meteor on fire takes way too dam long to hit the ground.

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Yeah I feel my comet storm is almost over by time meteor hits

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Oh yeah Frostfire is lots of fun but sadly it’s just not tuned properly for anything other than PvP and even then the damage isn’t there and it only performs well because of all the instant cast procs.

And that’s not just a mage issue either, a lot of spec/hero combinations just don’t do enough damage to be competitive if you’re doing anything beyond the normal raid and low keys. If you’re trying to push heroic or mythic and higher keys there is zero variety and you’re basically locked into the meta because everything is so overtuned.

It’s like the devs don’t want people to progress the endgame which would be fine if they actually released enough content at a faster clip so there is something else for everyone to do. As it is, I am already checked out of this season and playing other games. Right now I am just logging in weekly to do the anniversary chores for tokens and even that would be done next week so then I probably won’t log in at all until the new patch comes out.

Is frost fire getting a buff next major patch? I was reading the notes on it. Be nice if it really is. The only thing I don’t like about frostfire is that you have to take the meteor talent when playing fire specs version of it.
Frostfire still does not perform even close to spellslinger or sunfury. Sunfury blows frostfire away since there is no need for the meteor talent and their meteors are instant. Plus, the guaranteed Hypothermia proc and the longer combustion is a big damage boost that frostfire does not have.

For my playstyle I do much better damage solo and in groups with FF Frost. So your milage may vary. I prefer fun over min/maxing something I don’t enjoy

If you’re not mythic raiding or pushing +312 mythic plus keys or whatever the hell is considered uber-leet…

…then this really doesn’t matter one whit.

Frostfire is tons of fun to play (it’s my preferred frost mage spec) and it does fine damage. Everyone needs to stop falling into the trap of whatever the hell is considered meta for this week until Blizzard nerfs it to the ground, because all you keep doing to yourselves is getting into the bus, just to get off at the next stop. Then back aboard, and back off. Over and over again. It’s toxic.

(PS Kerathras this isn’t aimed at you, just in general.)

I came into TWW with plans to main MM but, decided to try FFF and geeeeeez it’s a freaking blast, especially in PvP. I love the run and gun style, the mobility and the tools it brings. Throwing out cc and peeling for team mates, interrupts, knock backs (loving EotS :smirk:). Having a root with flurry is great and frostfire empowerment hits like a truck.

Slippery with a great toolkit and, Frostfire bolt is back! I’ve tried a few other classes/specs and nothing comes close :man_shrugging: I’ve considered having an alt but, naaaah. I’m having too much fun.

I think it’s actually keeping me subbed which is saying a lot.