Frost DK is back to hitting like a wet noodle

Classes Death Knight
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So sad, frost DK is back to hitting like a wet noodle outside of CDs and even now with the CDS the peeks any valleys are too low and high, They need to walk bout the Breath and Ob change a little bit. But tunning has never been Blizzards strong suit

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I feel like I’m working harder than others for half the result. So sad! I was really looking for to playing both UDK and FDK this season in PvP and both have been gutted to irrelevancy.

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Still hit really hard during cds but I thought the entire point of nerfing pillar and buffing base damage was to increase our consistent damage and not be overly reliant in cds? Why did we suddenly get smashed with massive nerfs and all our damage is frontloaded back into our cds? Makes zero sense and I hate it

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They re-buffed Pillar in pre-patch. The STR stack was removed but it was buffed from 20% to 30% STR.

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Less than 3% overall in ST in the build that got hit the hardest.

C’mon. Take a chill pill and improve your play.

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Meanwhile Enhanced dominates raid and Mythic plus! Yet no tuning lol

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Brother, it’s a solid advice, but take a look at statistics. We’re dead bottom of all specs on ST. We’re THE weakest in our weakest raid fights, and there are plenty of other specs matching us on our strongest. And we also don’t provide anything unique to the raid.

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We were close to this before the nerfs. Frost didn’t really have amazing ST this season, we were taken en masse for early mythic prog because almost every single fight this raid involves some form of cleave, and we have better ST than Fury for the phases where cleave was a non-factor.

Nobody was going “Woah, Frost DK single target is meter-topping!” so nothing really changed…

Numbers are numbers. 2% isn’t really a huge deal. Bad players will try to find any excuse as to why they’re not gigachad meter-topping every fight (as if that’s reasonable in the first place).

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Is my tooltip bugged? It still says 12% in pvp for me.

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Your right 2% nerf isn’t bad at all. But it becomes and issues when every other class is starting to scale past you and that 2% nerf from where you were and were you are negates any gains you made. While other classes are surpassing.

The changes to the hero talents were good and I felt justified, The OB, Breath, and Icy Death Torrent were uncalled for.

  1. The OB nerf not only hurts AOE, but hurts single target inside and outside of buffs. Nerfing hurts both Riders, Breath, and OB builds which probably will be the first thing they end up reverting sometime during this expansion after the see Frost DK just won’t be able to keep up.
  2. Breath was originally buffed up to make it feel like an actual CD, not just something that you felt like you were juggling the whole time. This change is going to force players back into leveraging longer breaths and encouraging the same stuck game play that plagued FDK for years.
  3. The nerf to Icy Death Torrent while the talent is over preforming, basic tuning to the other talent points in the other parts of the tree could of easily made up for this huge lost of free damage. Such as tuning Hyperpryexia to be more consistent in terms of damage and not just a chance on proc.

Blizzard is working on nerfing Frost DK out of the conversation. As mentioned before enhancement shaman is just blowing up as well as assassination. Its sad when they just make botched changes and rip things on the fly. They really need to rework their numbers for tuning instead of just grabbing at everyone wallet with every new patch.

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I just hate that 2h riders copped a nerf because DW deathbringer was slightly over tuned.

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In PvP it’s still 12%. FDK is a hot mess in PvP right now since everything is still balanced as if it’s DF S4.

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Not its slightly under tuned lol. we are bottom raid damage now and the very bottom for boss dam.

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Maybe even S3 when DKs got all the crazy pvp mods.

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Yeah, such a sad state of affairs.

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It didn’t matter before and it still doesn’t matter.

They just could have removed the pillar strength stacking, put a choice node with icecap and change nothing else and there you go.

This “problem” of doing low damage outside of CDs doesn’t really exist when you’re inside your CDs for 40% of the time. And in the earlier beta you had something like 70% uptime inside pillar, when icecap was dynamic cdr. So it was literally irrelevant whether you did good damage outside of CDs or not.

If anything this is a good damage profile, because you have intermittent bursts of damage that are very frequent, therefore you have sustain and burst at the same time.

This low damage outside of CDs issue is as much of an issue as dynamic icecap, in other words it isn’t

As for buffs and nerfs, that’s a separate issue

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It is super annoying they did this rework just to end up with the same problems. BoS is still meta. No damage outside pillar. 2h is dead. Bottom of boss damage. Worthless in pvp.

Incompetent at this point.

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