Aye this is kind of how frost dk feels as well. Outside of obliteration or bos the damage feels so lack luster. We have to see what the future holds because yes the 2 ranks of obliterate do help but its like going from “sucky” to “still kind of sucky just not as sucky as before”-which at the end of the day is still “suck”.
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Aside from Obliteration still being woefully underpowered, Killing Machine procs are almost non-existent. Maybe 5-8%?
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Killing Machine procs will become more common as we gain more crit and haste going forward.
Crit people crit… gotta get it or Obliterate doesnt get the boost. Going from 30% crit in pre patch, to about 12% at 60 is a night and day difference. Of course damage outside of Obliteration is going to feel bad when you have low crit, auto attack crits is how you proc KM. This isnt some new mechanic, it was in Legion and BFA. Get your crit up, get some mastery and then see what it does.
Most people went Necrolord, which the ability every 2 minutes does have good synergy when going into Obliteration since you get that Rime proc, but the soulbinds just arent there until possibly weeks. It all depends on renown earned per week.
Emeni also requires group play to be any good, and its 20% str every 2 minutes if you do that.
People complained about Obliterate damage in pre patch, the answer was you are missing 2 ranks that boost its damage and people translated that to “its fine at 60” so people are getting to 60 with reduced stats and then saying it sucks it sucks.
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If you summon your ghoul before you pop arms with enemies, it counts as an ally.
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Honestly I’d rather they nerf oblit and buff everything else so we feel more whole. I don’t know many classes who are solely reliant on 1 skill to do damage.
You still need a group for the 20% strength.
Meanwhile people were touting how great frost was in the expac. Clearly they were just happy about having 2handers back and forgot to look at their damage meter rivaling a wet noodle.
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Yeah… I feel it.
Frostwrymms fury, 20 stack Cold heart, rime proc howling blasts and Obliterate is the only ones that matter, but you have to pretty much just wait for the right procs and timing or else your dps just falls flat. Everything else sucks a lot. I’d used the eradication conduit for frost strike, but the other one (I’m sorry I can’t remember) that gives strength buff from fs is better overall.
I can’t seem to get the other frost conduits because for some reason the game keeps throwing blood and unholy conduits at me. And yes I have loot set to frost, always 
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Like every expansion they will be doing balance passes around the start of the raid to adjust specs. Currently Frost is underperforming and Unholy is over performing.
They will likely do an aura pass. Possibly adjust specific abilities.
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One can hope. It’s possible they overlook. They do it all the time.
I do wonder will they specifically target dw or 2h for a buff or just an overall “frost dk buff”?
Needs an overall buff. But again don’t count on it. If this made it to live then they clearly were ok with it in beta. This blanket assumption that all will get fixed has been proven wrong every expac.
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Sorry, I’m a bit confused by this.
Start of legion Frost was underperforming.
They got buffed second week of the raid and became a very strong pick (machine gun)
Start of BFA Frost was underperforming and got buffed and became the best spec in Uldir.
The start of every expansion and usually each new raid tier we see buffs and nerfs. It would be more unusual for them to do nothing.
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Im getting kinda tired of this game. They delayed it and its this imbalanced. Ive been playing all afternoon and just asking myself why im still playing when im not having fun. What a depressing addiction.
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They didnt delay it to do class balance, they delayed it because you couldnt actually play the game. Leveling was screwed, covenants were all over the place and so on and so on. Class balance was the least of their concerns.
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And you think thats a good thing? I dont understand how you could think classes being completely imbalanced is OK.
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Did I say that? Nowhere in my post did I say that and here you are just assuming things. The game was broken and thats why they had the delay. Class balance is an ongoing process, but I guess its better to put resources into having a balanced class system than to be able to level and fixing bugs.
When did I ask for an explanation or excuse as to why its imbalanced? I didnt. I merely stated its unacceptable to launch a game with this much imbalance especially after delaying it.
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And the delay was not to address class balance, it was to address the game being literally broken. Mobs in dungeons being bugged out, covenant abilities not working properly, not able to get to max level through questing even with warmode on where exp stopped where you would need like 3 more quests to do, soulbinds needing to work for 36 specs.
You have to put your resources into what is important which is making the game actually work. The game itself wasnt even close to being ready to actually play.
You are saying that they delayed the game and in that time they should have done class balance, that is what I am disputing when the game wasnt actually functional. They were still trying to make raid bosses function.