I have done enough 10 keys this season to notice, at similar ilvl frost DK just “naturally” do 2M more overall and at the peak aoe pack they do more dmg too, just like unholy DK in season 2. This is clearly by design, why are you artificially making them superior.
Don’t argue with me frost DK is not either 3 buttons aoe or 3 buttons ST with one shared button, the recourses feed into each other, easiest spec in the game.
The existence of ret paladin would seem to be at odds with this particular part of your post.
100% wrong, ret is harder than frost DK anytime any week any year, ret has to watch party frames to cast abilities accordingly, have to dispel, bop, freedom, layonhand on ppl as needed.
Now I’m upset that I didn’t get to play one before all of the nerfs in ptr.
This is kind of not true, on the outside looking at ret only dmg wise maybe. But a true good ret who uses utility and sacrifices dmg sometimes to heal teammates, use bop correctly, LoH, is slightly more complex than frost dk who, literally only dps’s and throws a bubble up for people once in a while.
I’m maining FDK this season working on resilient 12’s.
On overall I lose to Assassin and a couple times to Havoc. I do slightly more than the average Dev I come across.
On single target I lose to Dev, Elemental and MM pretty reliably even if I come out ahead on overall.
FDK is easy but there’s no spec in the game that’s easier than Ret.
FDK is in a great spot, but there’s clearly other specs in the same range.
brother you’re posting as a bm hunter
But he’s maining Paladina this season, a Ret paladin that is probably struggling to get the battle res invite with all the FDK competition.
Last season Ret was better tuned so even though it was an Unholy meta Ret was still a decent pick.
I’d still take Ret to Arakara for poison dispel this season and maybe Priory depending on the kind of tank.
Wow imagine caring about this.
Eh, as someone who plays all three BM is currently more involved than either ret or frost.
They’ve turned it into a legit multi-dot rng class having to spread bleeds around and praying for dire beast procs.
I’d rather play Arcane. Way more prio damage and it feels smoother. Arcane is like the perfect ranged class, it has everything I want, it’s own personal absorb shield, lust, an immune, 2 AOE roots, 2 knocks, a slow, a kick, spell steal.
What else is there to play that is just so elegantly designed? Everything else has weird gimmicks going on like pets and sanity and problems AOEing or whatever.
lmao BM is NOT more involved than ret, you can fool someone who doesn’t play ret in a deeper lvl, but bro LAWL
Ret tracks 2 dots on target at all time
Ret tracks bless of dawn and crusade stacks buffs
Ret only uses finisher at full buffs with the correct dots on target
Ret plays in melee, more movements and significantly more kicks than a hunter LAWL which means taking our GCD away from our overall dmg
Ret sac teammates as needed, and we take more dmg have to deal with it with our own defensives
Ret watches party frames to dispel for the healer and heal teammates or freedom tanks etc, significantly harder than ANYTHING a hunter has to do. watching party frame is exactly what makes a healer hard to play.
If I had to choose what DPS my friend is playing in a key, Ret or BM, it’s going to be Ret. I had a Ret in keys when I played in DF and I really liked it, he knew exactly when I would need freedom, would LoH me, the whole full kit, it’s amazing to be able to rely on a DPS like that.
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I already know the ceiling of Ret from experience. I completely 100% judge Hunter players on their kicks and CC usage, I don’t even care about the damage, I literally look at that last.
total kicks, prio target dmg, overall, in that order
Lol, lmao even.
If I don’t see them using stops, they’re bad, they have a handful of them, that’s actually their strength kinda.
Ret tracks 2 dots on target at all time
Ret tracks bless of dawn and crusade stacks buffs
Ret only uses finisher at full buffs with the correct dots on target
Ret plays in melee, more movements and significantly more kicks than a hunter LAWL which means taking our GCD away from our overall dmg
Ret sac teammates as needed, and we take more dmg have to deal with it with our own defensives
Ret watches party frames to dispel for the healer and heal teammates or freedom tanks etc, significantly harder than ANYTHING a hunter has to do. watching party frame is exactly what makes a healer hard to play.
List what a frost DK has to do plz, LAWL
Oh you have the dragon breath thing you have to maintain for a few sec? Guess what, we have divine hammers, same thing we have to do too!
Good lord this person is personaly hurt bc his preciuous ret main isnt top dmg just because you feel entitled to it.
No wonder the entire community sees ret players as jokes.
Frost has been bottom tier with gameplay issues for years now, while ret gets touched every single patch.
Go back to your locked discord or something.