Frost could have really fun build around frostbolt

Classes Mage
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If frostbolt dealt atleast same damage as empowered ice lance

like, you have icy veins that makes cast faster and faster. You have talent that throws three frostbolts, 30 frostbolts/flurries and you get free frozen orb

But frostbolt base damage is so ridiculously low that you can only ever use it only to proc flurry/fingers and those frostbolt talents are just dead and you will never take them (not to mention that you would have to ignore ice lance/icicle talents that are dealing most of our damage)

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I don’t know about a frostbolt build but I agree, frostbolt needs a huge buff. Sucks feeling like casting frostbolt is a chore/dps loss, nessicary to get procs.

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unfortunately what happens with that is we get builds where you ignore everything else and just shatter frostbolt. doesn’t make for fun gameplay

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This is the big issue for sure. You can just watch yourself sink on the meters when you have to cast 2 frostbolts in a row because you didn’t proc

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Left side of tree is dead on arrival. Frost overall is a bunch of boring versions of past builds. We literally got nothing cool in DF.

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In before someone says “but you got mass poly” … eyeroll

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can’t even imagine a single use for that ability

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Has anyone ever used that spell in anything?

I’ve never seen it cast in PVE or PVP by anyone ever, most pointless waste of an ability in the game.

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Same… even less so since poly and mass put you in combat anyway making their effectiveness even less attractive for me :stuck_out_tongue:

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The only new thing we got in Dragonflight was [Arcane Surge], really. Everything else is some iteration of some spell that we used to have in the past or certain spells not being exclusive to a single spec anymore. [Hailstones] is probably the next best thing in the spec trees because of how it shifts our stat preferences but it’s completely passive requiring no thought put into it whatsoever.

That being said, I don’t really want [Frostbolt] to be buffed exclusively if it will be buffed at all. The problem with [Frostbolt] being strong is that we will only want to shatter it most of the time because not only would it do enough damage, it’s also our main spell used to fish for procs, so why cast anything else when [Frostbolt] would give you everything? It’d also hurt [Icy Veins] uptime even further, making everything just feel extremely miserable.

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Mass poly is a skip tool in m+ since the polyd targets will be aggrod on the mage you have the mage gather the pack/packs you’re skipping then DB mpoly and the group goes on and the mage invisibles or (if they scuff invis) dies and is rezzed.

It can also be used in pvp to mpoly one dude and poly a second.

Its not very good still.

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Very niche, probably never used by anyone since it also requires the pack to be all humanoinds and/or beasts. [Mass Polymorph] is a terrible spell.

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don’t really need skips in DF m+, almost always you get to last boss with just enough kills to get 100% if you didn’t aggro extra mobs by mistake

In nokhud you gotta even farm extra to use flight skip, the only real skip

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I’m not sure a frost build where you mostly just spam frostbolt would be that interesting.

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A frost build where you mostly Frostbolt in an IV window, almost exclusively, would be OK. But yeah, outside of that, hardcasting anything sucks. (Coming from clasm and skb fire.)

Something about machine gunning icicles and using Flurry on cooldown… Ratatatat! The problem is Frostbolt damage is pathetically low, even with the talent that buffs it (lol) 30%. Slick Ice

Something like this becoming viable BAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIJJgWiQIFJCNJiIJSCAAAIhkIRSSIpkkk0IJAAAAAAAAAA

But yeah, Ice Lance is too good to do anything of the sort, even during IV window. And you lose so much AoE damage it would exist almost as a pathetic joke outside of single target raid.

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There could be more build variety but I hope there is never a build that prioritizes [Frostbolt] over [Ice Lance] ever again, at least with current spec design. It is so anti-synergistic with the entire design of Frost and it would make [Icy Veins] an even more miserable cooldown, especially now that it doesn’t get cdr from AoE crits.

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