Spec is literally unplayble below level 60 due to flat 20% Obliterate perk and KM doing Frost damage being locked at max level.
Frost DK is just terrible without these new SL perks after having their base damage reduced to account for the perks.
Trust me man It’s a punch in the gut to see a favorite class get batted with the weird and unhelpful tweaks, Played that Spec since late wrath.
It just doesn’t feel in line with Unholy as it should.
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Sounds like the fix to your issue is to achieve level 60.
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Get 60, get some purples and frost begins to slap. Not worth worrying while levelling.
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With what specialization?
Whichever you prefer.
Classes are not designed or balanced for sub -insert xpac max level-.
Hitting 60 is perfectly doable as frost.
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When you start out as Frost your rotation is literally 3 - 4x Howling Blast > Frost Strike.
Just maybe, this design philosophy is the reason why new players quit before they begin?
Why are you pressing howling blast 4 times in a row
Because that and RP dumpers are the only abilities you start with.
Rune Strike gets converted into Howling Blast and not Obliterate when you choose frost spec.
I remember starting at level 1 as a warrior a only having Auto attack and heroic strike (which is pretty much still just Auto attack) and I still loved playing and exploring a new world. Now leveling is so fast you don’t experience being low level for long.
Besides, when the new xpac comes all the talents/abilities are getting a mix up so this issue might not be a problem for you any more then.
Auto attack actually did damage back then which is no longer the case.
Shhhhh… we dont talk about issues with Obliterate around here… you might be labeled as anti-2h with those words.
More the opposite, DW should be removed from DK’s. Doesn’t make sense, never has.
Just look at the 1 handed weapon rewards from the DK quest, it’s just a cataclysm dungeon placeholder appearance. Or did they finally fix that with the allied race new weapon appearances?
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I see people still have a hard time with reading.
Where the hell did I say 2h should be removed anywhere in my post? The answer is NOWHERE.
I said not to criticize Obliterate or else you will be labeled anti-2h… holy cow.
OP you’re talking about current xpac due to…
So I was assuming you meant SL content. I.E level 50+ leveling…
While it’s been a loooooong time since I’ve leveled a DK from scratch, your original complaint has nothing to due with what you just mentioned in your recent reply to me.
You quoted me without reading it?
“When you start out as Frost”
Not really an issue ngl since you get Obliterate at level 14. Doesn’t change the fact that the spec is heavily undertuned below level 58.
So my OP is still very much valid.
But go ahead. Level a frost DK from scratch and tell me it’s fine.
Your OP was complaining about a shadowlands change that does not impact your now other complaint of having two buttons to press at extreme early levels.
Why? I have no interest in that content. The class is phenomenal currently.
Imo this is just a weird complaint overall. No mmo do you get a full feel of a class at early levels. You level up, gain power, yada yada.
What are you even comparing it to? What competitive content are you engaging in at level 13 to make you feel subpar?
Thread title says “Frost below lvl 60”
The fact that not choosing a spec deals more damage than choosing frost for 10 - 20 levels or so.
When you pick a spec for the first time, you sacrifice https://www.wowhead.com/spell=316239/rune-strike
Try and compare it to https://www.wowhead.com/spell=49020/obliterate
New players for one probably wont know what they are missing, it does feel bad to level when Rune Strike is a 1 rune ability does almost as much as a 2 rune ability. Even the 30% increase from MotFW doesnt beat it out in resources spent for damage gained. You lose on rune regen and talents though.
There isnt much Blizzard can do about it other than getting rid of KM rank 2 and just baking it into rank 1. There is 0 need to have 2 ranks.
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Here’s an idea, hit level 60 and enjoy the spec. It takes like a day.
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