Thought I’d give an update as to what I’ve been doing and why, for the sake of the devs if they read this.
Ended up going back after the launch rush and playing some Fresh. While the pacing is slow, and it doesn’t feel entirely great to be redoing the original vanilla grind, it is at least something to do if I want to kill time. Up to level 28 so far just taking it super casually.
I enjoy SoD a lot more as far as character design and pacing are concerned (though I will say I DO NOT MISS having to grind out those runes). I just hit a brick wall on logging in when I think “what can I do on SoD”… and I just can’t think of any reason to motivate me to log in. Finally got my thunderaan weapon, and 2 piece tier 2 from reals / thunderaan. Bought the darkmoon faire Portal deck (and ironically haven’t used the effect yet). Got the 2 min cd pvp trinket…
That’s all the gear I plan on getting, because I don’t want to do long raids, nor do I want to do bloodmoon yet again, and the rank 14 grind is just kinda mediocre considering the weapon alternatives. I really think adding casual activities as a way to obtain outdated gear would benefit the game. The same way arena gear each season was phased to honor gear in the next, I think raids should pretty much be the same comparatively to the reals vendor. That, or there should be a new difficulty of dungeon that rewards improved reals that have access to that old tier. I don’t know. I just want something to do that doesn’t require me trying to get into a long raid.
Tl;Dr: There needs to be more reasons for someone to log in outside of raid logging.
Classic versions of the game entail Raid Logging. Raid logging is good and there isn’t anything wrong with it. Why? because in Classic/SoD/Fresh/HC there is a sense of completion and raid logging respects the time of the player base that can’t play WoW 24/7. If you completed gearing up one character, make an alt. If you don’t have an interest in that then thats ok just wait until new content comes out.
I agree with you on the runes scenario. Runes were cool at first but now its just annoying to get those. I much rather have a trainer just award the skill.
Lots of people are still leveling up in SoD. Its kinda funny because people are going to HC or Fresh and realizing how miserable the game play is then coming to SoD and leveling. After the streamer hype dies down and AQ40 finishes, people will come back to SoD. AQ40 has always notoriously been the least attractive raid in all of Classic.
Agree and disagree. Feeling like you’re character is complete is nice… but proceeding to have nothing to do with said character isn’t as nice. Should be other activities that aren’t mandatory, but are also an option.
I’ve got several level 60s. The worst part for me is the rune grind, I dread it with every new character I make. In the end my alts hit the same problem my main faces, I don’t want to raid.
Except phase 6 just came out and I haven’t wanted to touch it. Waiting around just for more unappealing content isn’t great.
I didn’t mind as much when it was the first go around. It was at least new, and spread out with my first characters. Now it’s condensed repeated misery.
Just feels like they really skimped on the PvP side of things. At least original vanilla I know the PvP gear will be comparable to PvE gear, and even better for a bit. In this the PvE gear just outpaced PvP gear massively due to set bonuses. The vanilla pvp system is also just trash, and this version made it where it was spaced out trash.
Maybe. I’d like to actually see some original content and not just rebalanced copy and pasted content. I think that might lure people back, but so far they’ve been very stingy on that front.
This has been the Classic approach since Classic Era was released. People have been raiding on the same toons for 5 years and still do it weekly till this dam. Thats just how some people have fun.
Actually it does, Retails has taken your approach and while some players like it, its very hard for casual players to play retail and still be relevant without farming M+ constantly.
Ya like I said, AQ40 has notoriously been the least attract raid in all of classic.
To be honest, I hate pvp in WoW. Its always been unbalanced and has always negatively impacted PVE. It wasn’t until Shadowlands where blizzard was finally able to disassociate the PVE and PVP impact that occurred with abilities. Thus, an ability could be nerfed for PVP but be completely fine in PVE.
There is apparently an SM raid after Naxx, maybe to complete ashbringer but it will definitely be cool to see.
Like I said, perfectly fine for that subset, and I realize its how era has been. The thing to point out is that this is SoD, and it’s designed to be a trial run for classic +. Adding activities that you can to for gold, or cosmetics, or insert X, would be objectively good. Doesn’t stop you from raid logging if you want if you’re just after power.
Again, I’m not saying those motivators should be tied to power, which is where retail makes its mistake. I do agree that an endless power grind that never completes feels unrewarding and bad. Retail also has a bunch of other mess around activities that can be fun and enjoyable, without scaling up the player power as a reward.
I haven’t touched any of the raids outside of thunderaan, so what raid the phase brought with it is rather irrelevant for me.
It’s fine to hate it, but I think it’s important to acknowledge while I don’t enjoy PvE, I think it’s health to offer different gameplay styles for different people. Having the option to jump from one to the other, or do both, keeps the game more alive. PvE has countlessly hurt PvP in past in current as well, it’s a push and pull system that they didn’t do well in SoD.
There’s been tweaks to abilities before that, but they tried their hardest to avoid doing tweaks like that. I don’t know if that’s the right approach to take or not, but the current methodology i think we can both agree isn’t working.
Supposedly. They didn’t exactly fill me with confidence showing only half a second footage of it of stuff they’ve shown us before though.