I sincerely hope that we get an RP-PvP, or an RP realm among the fresh servers.
A big failure point of SoM that stopped me from getting invested was that there was mass disagreement on which server the RPers should congregate on since Blizz refused to add one for us.
Please don’t make the same mistake again, Blizz. Throw your arguably most devoted segment of the player base a bone and designate one of the realms as RP. It’s not like it’s going to have any downsides or stop anyone from playing the way they want outside of RP, but it will mean A LOT to this community.
I don’t know that there’s any incentive for this. Grobbulus is an “RP” server, but is it tho? Most of the names of Grobbulus players on these forums seem to violate the RP naming rules. Are any of the other rules enforced?
It’s not about the rules being enforced, really. They honestly never have been. The utility is that people that want to play in RP guilds our engage in open-world RP will have a place to do so, rather than being fragmented across other realms, thereby killing those communities. If they make an RP server, we will naturally congregate there. Non-RPers will as well, naturally, but that doesn’t really matter. We’ve been ignoring them and doing our thing since 2004.
There is literally no reason not to add one other than to purposely spite the RP community that wants to play fresh, which is just stupid, just like it was in SoM. Quite a few people I know wanted to play but didn’t for this reason.
That’s not what I was saying, and doesn’t apply in the same way.
What I’m saying regarding SoM is because Blizz didn’t add an RP realm, the RPers tried to pick a realm for people that wanted to RP, AND play SoM. The issue that occurred was that the decision wasn’t unanimous, and players ended up being spread across 2 or 3 realms, resulting in the death of the RP scene on all of those realms.
Blizzard didn’t fragment the RP community by making Classic in the first place. People that just wanted to play Classic, as well as RP did so, but it didn’t affect the RP community in retail.
Similarly, the people that want to play fresh, as well as RP will not fragment existing communities on Grob. The people that fall into this category will naturally play the fresh RP realm.
The issue is: there will be people who want to play fresh as well as RP. Without an RP server designation, they will roll at random and may end up on a server with very few other people interested in doing the same. That’s bad. Again, just adding one will not affect any other players negatively, but will be very positive for the people that want to RP and play fresh.
Not doing it is an obvious L for Blizz, and adding one will be an easy Win.
Well, fwiw, imo there should be a maximum of 2 fresh realms. I don’t even think East/West regions is a reasonable ask, but if it is, then 1 realm for each region, and they can randomly be Normal or PVP.
That solves the issue you’re describing, regardless of whether we agree it’s even an issue.
Adding more realms and then having to consolidate them by offering free transfers or realm connections doesn’t feel like an “easy Win” imo.
Anyway, I have nothing against RPers or RP realms, but we already have RP realms, and, at least in the case of Grobbulus, the RP-PVP realm, it doesn’t appear that its population is anywhere nearly supported by an RP community as much as by non-RPers.
We are totally in agreement here; I am not advocating that there should be an RP realm created specifically for its own sake. I’m arguing that one of the two be listed as RP or RPPvP. It won’t stop the majority from selecting the realm based on being PvP or not, but it will allow the RPers to congregate and establish a larger and more active community.
OK, then answer this for me: If you are just going to RP anyway, would it be better or worse to do so on a server with more people also RPing there?
… I think the answer is obvious. All blizz has to do is put 2 letters next to the realm type, and the RP community will automatically be more concentrated and active, and won’t affect literally anyone else. If it did, i wouldn’t advocate for it, because that would be selfish.
It wasn’t on Bloodsail Buccaneers except for the first couple of months. Maybe that’s being generous.
There’s a lot of players out there on all servers that are accepting and even encouraging of acting as your character would so when I initiate by basic emoting or responding in character others will play along. Just because they don’t want to sit in an inn and wax poetic doesn’t mean they don’t support roleplay.
Those two letters you deem to be so important really aren’t. Especially in the wake of Blizzard’s commitment to player experience and social interactions. Specific RP servers to be launched with Wrath are not needed since Bloodsail Buccaneers and Grobbulus are open and available.
We had barely enough people for two RP-PvP servers at the start, I don’t think there is any desire for another. In a perfect world Grobb wouldn’t be a megaserver full of trolls who barely respect roleplaying conventions but alas.
RP servers won’t have and never have had just roleplayers on them. So spreading the Wrath population too thinly because too many servers were opened does affect others.
If you are rp-pve just roll on Bloodsail Buccaneers.
If you are rp-pvp just roll on Grobbulus.
Adding more roleplayers to those servers population can only be a positive. Blizz didn’t shut them down. That’s better than what the EU roleplayers are facing.
While I appreciate that you do this; this is what is considered light RP, and doesn’t cut it for those that want a more committed RP community to interact with.
I… kind of don’t think you know what we are discussing if you think that MMORPG=RP communities are everywhere. This also, in no way, splits the playerbase. It simply allows those who want to roll fresh, as well as play in a community with other Roleplayers, an avenue to do so. If that isn’t you, I have great news: It literally doesn’t affect you whatsoever.
Wherever there is a new iteration of WoW to be found, be it retail, classic, SOM or fresh, there will always be people who want to experience that content in a more RP focused way. Populations wax and wane, but I would argue that adding a place to congregate die RPers who want to play fresh would bolster the RP scene in Classic as a whole more than anything.
Agreed, and I am not advocating that any more than like 2 fresh servers would be necessary. And the fact that RP servers have never been just for RPers just furthers my argument: it hurts nothing to simply add the designation. It simply allows people that want to play fresh and RP an opportunity to do so.
Dude go to Grob and join those already there.
They’re congregating so you’ll have a community to join.
Blizz is closing down servers. They spin up too many for Wrath and they’ll die too. Don’t be selfish. Your people are on Grob. Support them.