As long as the Titans don’t go ripping out any more world trees or stabbing giant swords into Night Elven settlements (it was really surprising to see the leader of Cenarion Hold at Amirdrassil. Thought he got squished), the Night Elves don’t directly have to be affected by Knaifu’s underground adventures any more than say the Jinyu were affected by the Dragon Isle’s awakening.
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Well… those Gnolls from Azure Span got their eyes on Amirdrassil and they seem to want to spread their disease.
It troubles me one of the custom lines they specifically added for N’zoth in Dragonflight because they had story intentions for them was “Deeper and deeper its roots will grow, welcoming our embrace”.
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I had no idea who they were, since this is the first expansion where I didn’t do all the side quests (I was already level 70 just from doing remaining Shadowlands content and had no interest in Dragonflight until the Dreamsurge events started), but these Gnolls are actually anti-rot:
- Rot starve gnolls. Rot hurt friends. We kill rot now.
During the final quests of the Campaign you have to talk to a group of Gnolls and one of them tell you that “Rot likes life trees” and that “Wratheye will want to sick the tree”.
I asume they are talking about Decathriach Wratheye who’s the final boss of the Brackenhide Hollow dungeon. A place filled with rot and decay. Also she gets away before we kill her.
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Elune doesn’t have the ability to revoke her powers from the Night Warrior. If she did, no Night Warrior would ever be consumed by her power, because she could simply take it away the moment the task was done. It was the instability of those powers that caused her to lose her strength when fighting Sylvanas, and they became more unstable afterwards.
She even says as much when she communicates to the Winter Queen in Ardenweald. “Tyrande invoked me, she must choose, vengeance or renewal.”, and it is only when she chooses renewal that the unstable powers of the Night Warrior are removed and she returns to normal.
I haven’t done that dungeon. Seems kinda random that a dungeon boss not necessary for the main campaign just gets away and doesn’t show up again the rest of the expansion, doesn’t it?
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Not really. Not if Blizzard wants to “start putting water” in their well of future villians.
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I’m super jealous of Amirdrassil. Ever since Silvermoon and Exodar came out, I’ve dreamed of one day the Darkspear getting a capital city of their own. Instead we got Echo Isles. If Amirdrassil is what abuse looks like, sign me up!
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Sorry, but no. Only one “side” has spent years trying to turn every forum post into a night elf grievance thread.
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https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Winter%27s_Sigil
From Tyrande:
When I first became the Night Warrior, it was with full knowledge that I might very well sacrifice my life to attain justice for the kaldorei. Such is often the fate of those who channel Elune’s unmitigated fury.
The power of the goddess still flows through me, but no longer does it threaten to tear me asunder. I cannot say how I will wield it in the future… only that I must do so for the good of my people.
Elune’s power is still there it seems.
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I’m not saying it will happen or that the Tree is already in danger. Just pointing out some dialogue with those Gnolls witnessing the arrival of Amirdrassil.
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Night Warrior mode being like a super saiyan mode would be badass.
Imagine a tough fight, and then Tyrande eyes just go full black and the aura starts charging…
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I don’t think there was anything officially stated that the power was ‘turned off’. My interpretation of the cinematic was that the Night Warrior powers waned because Tyrande beseeched Elune directly during the fight with Sylvanas. She literally says ‘My life for hers’ and Elune did not want to grant it because it would mean Tyrande’s death if she tapped into enough of the Night Warrior power to kill Sylvanas. (This would also end of the possibility of saving the souls that were woopsie-doodle dumped into the Maw, but I can’t recall if Elune knew about that at this point in the story or not.)
I feel like people are conflating their misinterpretation of the Night Warrior with ‘uselessness’ because they weren’t blatantly told outright that Elune is not the omniscient super-goddess that they thought she was, despite any previous inclusions of her intervention being subtle at best.
Before I get dog-piled: I love Elune and I love the Kaldorei but I also think we need to tone down our expectations of Blizzard getting everything spot-on to satisfy every single nitpicked nuance of the Night Elves because the story is inconsistent and disappointing for EVERYONE. Not just the Night Elves. I wish people would focus on the positives instead of over analyzing everything to pull what they’re perceiving as lemons out of thin air.
We have a beautiful zone, a GORGEOUS new tree, the new cinematics made me happy cry and all my beloved lost Kaldorei are rightfully returned as wisps to protect their beloved forests. We have magical new assets, with reskinned buildings, transmog and dialogue and Delaryn FINALLY gets to re-unite with Ferryn in the most bittersweet moment that broke my heart. Lastly and most importantly, the Night Elves are NOT abandoning Kalimdor and this is just another place that they can call home.
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My personal interpretation is that Tyrande herself was hesitant and thats why the power failed.
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There’s still Hyjal near Nordrassil. And they were in Stormwind temporarily after the Fourth War according to Shadows Rising. Technically speaking the command table quests in BFA say otherwise. Not to mention that the Night Elves aren’t going to sit idle. Just because Blizzard is poor at showing what they’re doing doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t at least try to reclaim Ashenvales, and rebuild Darkshore.
I’d argue further that there are probably villages that had popped out around Hyjal when they moved from Stormwind to Nordrassil. That would have been a better place to have a capital. Hell there’s a lot of old crumbling cities and buildings in Azsuna. They could have restored those even. And even in Kalimdor too. Maybe reclaim Dire Maul even.
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I do wish Blizzard added a couple of those new houses in random parts of NE lands. Even if no NPCs are added at least that would be a good way of showing how NE indeed came back and restored their lands.
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I mean they did it at the Crystal Lake for humans. And if they were really trying to do the whole “oh well the Night Elves moved to Stormwind” then build actual homes and a moonwell to /show that/.
Yeah. I’m salty about Amirdrassil. I’m salty about the changes they did because Blizzard doesn’t do a good job of showing what changes occured during books and short stories to better convey it to rpers. Not to mention at least on my server there’s a dozen rp hubs that can be used for the Night Elves, that have been abandoned in favor of Stormwind. Because people thought “oh if there’s Darnassian npcs here then they most live here, oh the poor night elves let us feed them D:”
When the reality is that they wouldn’t spend the whole five years in Stormwind. They all would have moved on from Stormwind before the war ended. Or even after the end. They’re not known for being in one place, not to mention the one thing people say is that “Night Elves don’t like large cities.” If that’s the case then they logically wouldn’t like being in Stormwind for a few months let alone five years. They would have left sooner if that were the case.
Not to mention but the little blurbs that the npcs say seemed to pinpoint that they weren’t really there for a full five years. It was still the day that Teldrassil had burned down, or at least a few days after the scenario. Judging by what they would occassionally say, and Mia Greymane and other npcs healing the wounded in the Cathedral. It would have been easier for people to just ignore them. That’s what I did on my kaldorei characters. They weren’t there. They had moved away going to reclaim their home or went to other places in Kaldorei control. Stormwind was a temporary place. A very temporary place.
Then Shadows Rising came illustrating that many had fled for Nordrassil after the Fourth War had ended. But many people didn’t read the book and still say the npcs thinking “oh the poor night elves haven’t left. D:”. Not realizing that there’s a difference between story and game and that the npcs themselves are still trapped a few days after the burning of Teldrassil.
Blizzard can’t show the changes that they made. Anything now is just salt in a wound. I’m allowed to be salty about Amirdrassil considering that in the past five years, the Night Elves could have done a great amount of reclaiming the lands that were affected by the Fourth War.
We technically have two separate forums for Story and Role Playing. That role players may not all be as in tune with the story as people focused on analyzing canon is more a matter of player’s interests rather than exclusively Blizzard’s delivery practices. Role players may be more interested in telling their own stories rather than seeking out every detail of Blizzard’s. Many role players even disregard Warcraft’s canon entirely and establish their own fantasies instead.
Edit: That said, yes, including external story content within the game instead would be preferred.
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Ironically on Moon Guard, they keep with Blizzard’s canon to a t. If you go against it then you get yelled at and ostracized for it. I’ve been told time and time again that being canon divergent is bad. That if you don’t follow the lore or lore bend then you’re a bad rper.
Many night elf rpers are talking about going to Amirdrassil to rp because Stormwind is bad. And are the ones who have stated “oh the poor refugees.” along with other rpers…I can’t tell you how often I’ve had to tell people that “they’re not there…they left.” oocly to explain my reasoning when my character stated it icly and was given weird looks as if they were hallucinating.
I mean there were continous arguments when the Man’ari came out about whether or not they were killed on sight, same with Scarlets. Like everyone tries to follow as closely as they can which is weird since Blizzard cant do that.