https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-10-1-7-fury-incarnate-forsaken-and-night-elf-heritage-armor-334017?webhook
So now we are down to Draenei and Darkspear and Pandaren and Dracthyr.
The Forsaken heritage armor is not terrible but itās not exactly getting me excited. Itās all about the quest and I canāt say I am excited for that either since itās a empty victory without Sylvanas.
It looks good but it will probably have different variations and colors that enhances the over all theme. Weāll see.
I am so excited to finally get Night Elf heritage!
I like the addition of a back piece on the Forsaken heritage teaser photo. I hope the Forsaken one has a robe option like theyāve offered some races in the past, it would seem almost like an oversight if an apothecary or OG Shadow Priest vibe wasnāt included!
Please more Sentinel looking and less Druid looking armor! As many have said before, we already have plenty of leafy/nature armors.
TBH Iām hoping that they pull some inspiration from Huntress Kasparianās model in Tomb of Sargeras.
I was farming it the other day and realized that sheās wearing unique armor that isnāt actually available in-game (that Iām aware of) If you look at her in the Dungeon Journal you can see that itās very huntress/sentinel themed.
Iām with you, we have enough Druidic themes for Night Elves. As much as I do like that, Iād rather see some more facets of the Kaldorei get some love.
Iām hoping the colors are:
- Purple Green as shown (Base Lordaeron, with the Lordaeron L as we see)
- Black Red for Undead Thalassians (changing the Lordaeron L for the Sanlayn symbol maybe since they said everyone is Darkfallen)
- Blue Gold for a more Lich-y feel maybe
- white gold will sadly be a color cuz Calia
Now with the Forsaken armor I hope they get a plate looking version as well as a robe. They are after all people fallen at Lordaeron so itās obvious it should represent all classes like warriors, priests and rogues for example.
Iām very curious on what the questchains will be about.
I hope the Forsaken one helps hammer out more of their independence without Sylvanas. Thereās been a jarring absence of what the Forsaken as a nation even feel about her fate.
Youād think that theyād have more of reaction to the absence of a leader they revered to almost god-like devotion. The silence on that is kinda deafening.
As for the Kaldorei, I just hope itās less boo-hooing to be honest. Night Elves being my favorite race, Iām tired of feeling sad or disappointed. So if it can accomplish that in some way, Iāll be pleased.
It is quite deafening. Itās like they want to erase Sylvanas fans completely and hope we forget about what happened. Iām sure some players will be happy about this, but itās hard to picture a Forsaken Heritage quest without addressing the elephant in the room, or rather the elephant not in the room.
Yeah, I think Sylvanas (at one point) represented the forsaken perfectly. I donāt think thereās any good way to tackle a heritage questline after what happened with her character, because who they were as living humans is kinda irrelevant. There really isnāt a heritage without Sylvanas spearheading it, but that character doesnāt really exist anymore even if they (god forbid) bring her back from the maw for it.
The way I see it they will likely make it about Calia reclaiming her kingdom, on paper it will be a good quest but I feel like the only people it will actually be happy about it is Lordaeron human fanboys because that seems to be a trend with these new Forsaken quests.
I also donāt see them using this opportunity to bring Sylvanas back from the Maw, but if they do Iāll eat my shoe.
The Return to Lordaeron quest line was a massive, rotting, skeletal middle finger to this crowd, not fanservice for them. A few of this forumās MHP types, whoād spent years arguing that the Forsaken were evil usurpers to be purged from the Allianceās rightful heartland of Lordaeron, quit the game in seething rage over it.
I wondered if Blizzard would:
A) lean into Lordaeron/human type stuff
B) lean into some sort of Sylvanas connection to pave the way for her return
C) go into some new direction and focus on other aspects of them
From the outfit, it looks like C with a touch of A. Thatās good - just a bit of Lordaeron with that L, still holding on to that iconography - but also the grim Undead stuff.
Iāve already seen some people throw fits because the forsaken heritage is āstealingā the Lordaeron symbol and generally being mad about it being present on the heritage set.
That said Iād like if the heritage actually spent time addressing a few things, mainly these:
The absence of Sylvanas since she literally formed this group and led them for so long, and what it means that she betrayed and is no longer with them.
Shared trauma of undeath.
Their heritage of Lordaeron. both as a former home to many of them in life, but also a new home to them all in undeath.
A bit about their future, preferably hopeful with this new democratic desolate council to lead them and rebuilding of their home.
These are the most important bits for me as I feel it encapsulates a lot of their heritage as a group. if I really could wish for anything more it would be the presence of the cult of forgotten shadow.
Gonna upset some other NE fans maybe here, but Night Elves donāt need a heritage story right now. As a night elf fan myself, the foremost reason is that what one would define as their āheritageā is something that the new writers have shown they kind of dont understand, and I highly doubt that this would have changed in the small time between .1.# patches. They are more likely to further irreparably harm the fantasy of the Kaldorei out of ignorance than they are to really present it with proper respect rn.
That said, it is also just awful timing, because they just wrote out Malfurion. Who is one of the only characters, if you look back at earlier material, had a good understanding of the Kaldorei heritage, their losses, and an idea of moving forward and not being doomers about losing their immortality in noble sacrifice. But beyond that, he is also the Honored Master and a heritage storyline is the perfect chance to see him seeding a new generation, now that theyāre both mortal AND freed from the long years of warding the Emerald Dream to fulfill the terms Ysera put on the Kaldorei. Malfurion is far too powerful for most plots, it is why he usually shows up to be jobbered to hype an enemy up, but beaten off screen or holding back, or somehow impaired in some way. A questline thatās about the identity of the Kaldorei, half of which he himself helped seed in their civilization, is the chance to show his character WITHOUT him bulldozing a threat or being turned stupid to hype up said threat.
At this point, I think having Calia around does the opposite. It pretty much cements the Forsakenās claim on Lordaeron. There have been quite a few posters on these forums claiming the Forsaken had usurped the rightful owners, were squatting on stolen land, and that they needed to be shuffled off to Northrend. Generally of the male and human and paladin variety.
Turning the last remaining heir to the Menethil throne in to an undead (albeit a lightforged variant) pretty much tells these RPers - āNah, Lordaeron belongs to the Forsaken. Yāall can just deal with it.ā
Itās been argued ad nauseam that the Forsaken are literally the Lordaeronian people raised into undeath, but that didnāt stop the RPers from whining about it.
Ehhh Sylvannas promised to give capital city back to living Lordaeronians, then killed Garithos and went back on the deal, literally the day she founded the Forsaken.
Best case scenario theyāre dead people whose claim to land wouldāve expired on death, and chose to continue living with other undead who have no hesitated to just straight up kill other Lordaeronians just trying to stay alive after the scourging of Lordaeron.