For those who think Ret is an S tier spec

Do you have any proof to back your statements? or do you just look at the rng clips? I would rank them A personally and anything above that is pretty troll. They clearly aren’t as good as fire mages, WW, arms, and hpal. Just look at warriors they have insane peel, the best heal cut, more sustained dmg and better mobility.

Im an hpal btw and ive never played ret, I just cant stand these annoying kids claiming this spec is in the top 5 or something

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Bro, pally mains have room temperature IQ and hit glad.

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Thats a good point! Thank you for contributing to the discussion!

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How about this room temp IQ paladin define what makes something S tier.

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This is gonna be gud.

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This is giving me insight into the type of people who think ret is op. thanks guys.

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I mean it definitely is…

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Room temperature in celsius, I must say.

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I watched most of the first 2 AWC cups, and saw pallies represented there at the highest levels in all 3 specs, with tons of both rets and holy pal.

That’s enough for me to know that they are S tier, and fit into a variety of comps.

Word of glory just needs to go, I don’t feel like any hybrids should have the healing of an actual healer or even better.

I know they’re professional players, but a freaking protection paladin actually making it up to the top, as his teams healer? Come on.

Not sure about EU but the
The last NA AWC, for the top 8 had zero ret paladins
Im not arguging hpal isint S so not sure why you mentioned that

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I think I qualified that both have incredible representation so far if we look at both cups.

And much of the same kit is just ‘pally kit’ so the good things in ret are also good things in hpal.

thx, i tought ret was a really good if not opressive spec atm but you opened my eyes, buff ret!

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rets dont have incredible repesentation in AWC though…

Not sure what you’re trying to say in the second point

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I mean

5th Highest represention spec in 3s
7th Highest represention spec in 2s
7th Highest represention spec in RBG

Mostly played on AWC as Ret/War Comp

The repsentation is counting healers as well so if its purely dps it will go up on representation

Take into consideration there are 36 specs in the game

Not saying ret should be buffed, but thanks for the random comment

Everyone’s seen the clip man, you aren’t going to convince us.

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General representation is an indicator of strength but it dosent prove it. If you look at priests they have a ton of representation. Is disc an S tier spec in 3’s?

Its A tier best, B tier at high end.

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Disc is S tier in 3s with RMP on ladder if u want to mention 3s