I have a question for those playing non meta specs… how do you manage to find groups for M+? (Inb4 JUST RUN YOUR OWN KEYS).
For a quick lil context, I have carpal tunnel on both my hands which makes playing my favourite and main spec (MW monk) almost impossible for more than half hour without intense pain. I struggled to find groups for 12s and 13s when I was trying to reach 3K on it and eventually I decided to bench it for a bit and try and get 3K on a slower spec.
Which brings me to the question, how are you all solo players managing to get into groups? I landed on Spriest, I’m not doing terrible in DPS for a spec I’ve never played before and it’s definitely much much slower and kinder on my hands and wrists, but for every key I’m trying to get to (even 10s and under) I’m getting rejected left, right and center.
I know that currently for priests, disc takes the cake and there’s little utility a second priest can bring to a group because at least in 80% of groups I’ve applied for, their healer was a disc priest.
This isn’t a whine post, I’m genuinely trying to find the best way to get keystone legend while playing a spec that won’t leave me in consistent pain. Am I just better off trying something else?
Well, I tank so maybe it’s easy for me just because of that, but I tend to queue into less attractive groups. Of course I’ll also be adequately qualified myself, I.E. timed all 11s before queuing into 12s.
A +15 rookery while the leader is just 3080io? Yeah, he’ll accept me in a heartbeat.
It’s more than just that. Shadow is just bad at AoE. Even if Disc wasn’t the meta healer and priest utility wasn’t covered, I don’t think shadow would be meta.
Running your own keys is very good advice, but after that the best tricks I use are to try and apply to groups where I would be a good fit, and to make sure that I’m applying to things which are appropriate.
So, on my Outlaw rogue I’m not applying to keys where they already have 2 DPS without lust. That’s going to force them to find a healer that can provide it, which at minimum means I’ll be signed up and waiting until they find a healer first, and more likely means that I’m just not going to get picked. They will probably take the first comparable lust DPS that signs up. I’m also not trying to jump key levels or even sign up for a 13 of a dungeon I’ve timed a 12 in if all my other keys are only at 10-11.
The less concrete advice I have is to put something amusing in your note. I’m not going to take the time to verify that you are a 3k alt, but if you put something in your note that vibes with me that’s going to shift my thinking from why I would take you over an applicant that is you but better, to why I wouldn’t take you. If the vibes are good and you don’t have any red flags then you’re in. I’ve had this work for me more and it’s not super common, so it makes the advice all the more valuable as you will stand out more.
A final thing I do is to just make sure I’m cycling my applications. Unless there’s only a few keys that fit what I need I’m cancelling after being applied for one minute and applying to something new. You can always reapply if needed. You’re going to be more-or-less stuck babysitting your applications anyhow, so you might as well go all out with it.
But seriously you are missing out big time if you aren’t curating your own key at all. It is such a useful way to smooth out rough patches.
I play Feral and Guardian but since tanks get instant invites ill leave Bear out.
Im a little OCD and like to round out all 8 dungeons in a given range before trying to move up.
Like complete all 8 in the 2-4 rang before applying for the 5-6 range. Just what i personally do because it scratches the itch in my brain.
But that does 2 things. First it shows experience by giving me a decent completion count of keys and shows ive done that dungeon in a relevant range. So its not like im trying to apply to an 8 with the closest key timed being a 2 in that dungeon
Second, inflates your io score. 4s across the board is something stupid like 1500-1600 which seems really high when applying for something like a 6 or 7. And getting to that range is prime because thats where youre gonna get your biggest gear upgrades which a nice ilvl always looks nice
Hopefully you will get your wrists attended to. As someone who had carpal tunnel, I know that if it isn’t fixed you run the risk of losing all use of your hand due to nerve damage. So get it fixed as soon you can, mate, it really is a nasty thing.
My answer (and not being snarky) is that I don’t worry about what is meta or not because I don’t do things that might require it. I play the classes I enjoy playing. If doing something like M+ required me to play a class and a spec I didn’t enjoy, I wouldn’t do them. My balance always swings towards what is fun for me. I get many find M+ fun (I don’t personally).
Yeah! this is what I try to do. It is disheartening to see that as soon as I get the rejected thing it’s because they’ve taken a disc priest. Or rejected me but taken a boomkin or unholy dk. Which hey, it’s fine, I can’t force groups to take me in but when you do spend 30 mins to an hour applying just to do content.
Running my own keys has been a hit and a miss, Most of the time keys are disbanded by the good ol’ people dying in the first pack and somebody leaving as a result.
It’s not your class, it’s your score and item level, but mostly score. For reference, I’m not taking anyone below like 2600 for a 10. If I’m on my main, I’m liable to set that bar much higher.
I am currently 2725 io and 669 ilvl. My main who’s currently sitting at 2979 is linked in the raiderio addon too. I would somewhat justify not taking me for 12s, but anything 10 and under, idk what you want from me lol
Thank you!
I am currently doing rehab with a physiotherapist and all them stretches and things It’s why I straight up hard switched to a slower spec too.
Yeah, then you are actually experiencing nonsense. Most people that talk about this here, almost without exception, are people that are nowhere near there, but applying to 10s with none timed, etc. I have honestly encounter what you’re describing more this season than ever before. I was getting declined to 12s to reroll my own 12 into something the pugs could actually time to get a key that mattered to me, and I had all 12s timed with a 13. Most of the time it was for a disc priest. And the funny thing is, if a pre nerf disc priest getting instantly invited to any key he wants is still pushing 12s and 13s, what does that tell you about that player?
Easy, im an overgeared tank targeting easy 6-8s to spam out. The rest, im probably doing with friends. I don’t bother trying to pug 10s because i put no effort into raising my score.
If you need a slower play style, I would recommend trying devo evoker due to the charge up casts. They have potential to do an eye watering a mount of damage.
My own story is I started going for 3k on resto, hit 2.9k, kept getting rejected to 13s and decided to try for 3k on my ret. Getting to 3k on my ret was a lot easier because I got invites a lot faster than on my resto and it was a bit more chill playing DPS.
It’s why I straight up hard switched to a slower spec too.