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I was not insulting you or anyone in the thread, apologies if it seemed that way. It just seems that the debate tactics on the forums are more about insulting people than expressing a valid opinion these days (not that it was ever better back then). If you are interesting in knowing something, ask. Nothing wrong with that. I think that is could be a reason why so many people talk about the community being ātoxicā. Not because of in game children, but what happens on the forums.
It just seems people are reaching at this point and nitpicking things to be upset about it and debate.
Seems a bit shortsighted as a lot of vanilla players are also retail players. You make an interesting counterpoint, though it does not matter really. As you stated retail is retail and classic is classic. I do not know why (not you as you were responding) the need to turn everything into a tribal mindset is so strong with people these days. This is better, that is not, let me insult you now. Digital tribalism is so insane. It is like a junk measuring contest at this point.
Also, just to throw something out there, I think as far as PVP is concerned vanilla players really outshine retail PVE players. Retail PVP is too watered down and very easy compared to the classic experience. Also, a lot of the retail players have not had to experience such a PVP environment before. While that was not the topic and slightly deflection, just wanted to make a counterpoint.
Compared to something like CS or Dota? Yeah, sure. But donāt sit here and tell me getting 2500+ in 3s on retail is easy.
No. Not just compared to CS and Dota. Compared to almost any AAA game. Iād call CoD long before WoW.
Way easier than some of the higher level ranks in vanilla.
Where is your āā VODāā? We are all waiting with held breath iām sure.
yay, another classic zealot that pretend his class has depth to it because thereās some flavor ability heāll use once a monthā¦ while being totally ignorant about all the CD and utilities classes on retail have to manage.
And your āā VODāā is where? Yeah, that is what i thought.
might surprise you butā¦
most people donāt film themselve playing games.
Higher level ranks? Are you really saying grinding HKs in PUGs is harder than beating the top .3% consistently in arenas? Ranks in Classic are literally just how much you playā¦
ROFL you actually think Iām a classic zealot?
You canāt be serious.
Iād say any end game boss in Vanilla be it Rag, Cthun, Saphirron or KT is on par with early level heroic bosses on retail. You really canāt deny it.
And no I donāt have a VOD because Iām like mid 20ās and just rerolled anyways.
Iām not hating on Classic, it really is an awesome game and better than retail in every way possible. But call a spade a spade, itās not challenging in any sense of the word.
Rag is easyā¦Ony not so muchā¦BWLā¦def not, ZG ok maybe if you concede x class will only be utility, AQ uhhā¦20 yea 40 no, Naxxā¦idk not enough people have done it for it to be comparable to the average player.
What?
Ony was crazy easy. Wasnāt it killed by like 5 people before the 2.0 patch dropped?
This describes everything up to Lich King (where I stopped doing PvE) you know right?
Raiding itself is not hard.
Organization, gearing up for the HPS and DPS checks, understanding where to stand.
Its not hard stuff, its just time consuming. Its why PvE will always be an inferior experience to PvP.
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When your argument sucks, attack the character profileā¦ or whine about not being able to attack the character profile because you canāt see it.
Thug life.
Comparable to the patch they released in not really based on Videos that had been posted, Even the most famous videos from those 2 dungeons; one is people failing to compensate for a fear (Ony) and the other is just the most famous ninja ever (MC).
Anecdotal but: at least on the 2 servers i was on in classic Rag was down before Ony due to gear requirements and people spending so much time on MC attune and itemization they didnt have their necklace as a majority or were OVER stacked with fire gear because they were compensating for rag.
considering youāre doing nothing but 1-liner without substances so far, I tried to be polite with āclassic zealotā instead of āblatant foolā, but if you insist:
vanilla PvP ranks is 99% time spent, 1% skill. Avoiding any kind of challenging opposition was the best thing to do to maximize your honor per hourā¦ so yeah, classic zealot it is.
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LK was not the first complicated or difficult fight lol.
might surprise you to know that heroic lich king isnāt particularly hard either by modern standard.
go for mythic KJ if you need a good example.
HAHAH you really do think Iām a classic zealot. What a moron lol!