Follower Dungeon abuse RUINS Warmode completely and all WPVP

the context is for a specific person though, it’s in general. and anyone can live doing it. it goes both ways.

well they don’t now, so yea…

ok, I’ve thought about it, and people are going to be people. not sure what you’re expecting? it’s not a big deal people are being people.

well that’s good. he and others can dry up some of theirs tears.

It goes both ways, yes. Everyone knows they could just follower dungeon themselves. No one is saying “you’re wrong! I can’t just follower dungeon out!”

The point is, no one wants to do that, and no one should be able to do that. It kills World PvP because theres no risk if people are just follower dungeoning out. There is supposed to be risk when playing in War Mode.

I mean, they technically still do? It was a recent fix to Deepholm Potions. It used to work prior before Dragonflight but for some reason Blizzard felt the need to say, “hey, you can’t use Deepholm Potion to escape PvP combat even if you use Shadow Meld, Feign Death, or Vanish.” and now it prevents you from using it.

I’ve already made that clear? I want Blizzard to fix it. Obviously, people are going to be people. That’s why this is a problem. Blizzard needs to fix follower dungeon queues and specifically that. Give it the deepholm potion treatment.

according to you there’s supposed to be risks. to others, it’s just an opportunity to be shady, or whatever they want to do. you’re trying to impose your view of what it should be… which I wouldn’t disagree with if it were that way, but it isn’t so it’s whatever.

alright.

then they move on to the next cheese thing “whatever that might be” and we have more posts like this. I’m not against your view of warmode, I just don’t think it’s a big deal it isn’t what you think it should be.

People enable War Mode for their own reasons, yes, but the reason why people are given a War Mode bonus is because you’re fighting in increased difficulty. You’re fighting in a world with increased risks, i.e being its not just PvE, its PvPvE. You have to worry about players now.

But that’s not just “my view” of how it should be. It’s how Blizzard designed it to be and how Blizzard even advertised it when they introduced War Mode in BFA.

And thats fine, folks will do the same thing and ask for a fix and Blizzard will eventually, or should eventually, fix it.

Its not my view, it’s Blizzards view. :person_shrugging:

Its how they advertised it during BfA reveal and when they introduced War Mode and what it was. But regardless, follower dungeons should be fixed.

it is just your view though… hence why there’s other ways to play in warmode… and part of why blizzard does nothign about it, so far.

when they think it’s a big deal, they probably will.

if that were true, this whole back and fourth between us wouldn’t have had to happen. Blizzard designed a mode for people to fight in, sure… but they also left a lot of thigns in to do it your way.

we’re a long ways from BfA at this point. things change. if they fix it, they fix it… if not, who cares… it’s such a silly thing to be upset about with all the other problems/bugs in the game.

I think you’re confusing War Mode for something it’s not… Simply put, War Mode is just opt-in/opt-out PvP servers. Most content besides killing other players is just world content.

War Mode just introduces the concept of World PvP, an extra layer of difficulty.

Maybe, Blizzard’s weird. Deepholm Potion wasnt a “big deal” but for some reason they felt the need to fix it. Its more so whenever they stop being lazy.

Everyone who’s complaining about it cares. :person_shrugging:

If you don’t care about it, cool, move on. I don’t know why you’re trying so hard to invalidate other’s opinions lol. Just makes you look shallow.

that you can do in different ways.

if you say so.

which is silly… is what I’m saying.

My only point ever was it’s not a big deal. if you, or anyone else is bothered by people telling you thigns you don’t want to hear/read… then maybe the forums are for you.

your opinion of how I look isn’t much of a concern for me… you trying to put that dig in makes you look shallow though… and I get the feeling you might care about that sort of thing… hence why you’re saying it to me.

Silly to you. And that’s fine if its silly to you.

My point is, its a big deal for those who enjoy WPvP. I believe that if everyone can just teleport out of a PvP fight whenever they want, its going to kill WPvP. There will be no point in engaging in PvP combat if people are going to just follower dungeon out.

All I’m saying is Blizzard needs to fix follower dungeons. Whether or not you think thats a big deal, whatever.

you believe. right. you. not everyone. you. others can enjoy WPvP however they see fit.

I don’t think anyone would care if this happened. as I already said, they’d just move on to whatever the next cheese is.

You don’t think. Right. You don’t think. You.

Clearly there are people complaining about it though.

And Blizzard would move on to fix whatever the next cheese is. :person_shrugging:

looks like I hit a sodium mine. better stop digging.

the devil you know…

I’m only using your argument against you mate. :person_shrugging:

If you can’t handle it, then that’s on you.

which is such an obvious way of letting me know it got to you.
but let’s look at it in more detail, shall we?

I said

which is just an opinion about nothing, really… where you said something that made you look bad… but essentially was “My veiw of what people should be able to do, or not do is what matters”

sp… yes you trying to mirror my speech only shows I in fact hit a sodium deposit…

oh and for a little added bonus, you mirrored this as well

with this

so anyways… yea… I’ll stop digging. def hit that deposit.

Yep.

They made this a sanctuary as linked above.

Usually, though, Blizz is hands off with PvP stuff.

No, it’s more so to show you how ridiculous of an argument you’re making lol. If it sounds stupid when I say it, it doesn’t sound any better when you’re saying it.

My opinion is more so how I predict what would happen if this behavior continued and if everyone just “did it too” like you’re suggesting. You’re telling other people that they can follower dungeon as well but that isn’t the point, and if Blizzard were to outright say, “yeah you can follower dungeon as well” or in this case said it was fine and isn’t an issue like you claim, then people would stop doing WPvP. It’d kill WPvP.

I’m detecting more trace amounts of sodium with this comment… must still be in the air from hitting the deposit

no it wouldn’t ppl like you who love the “truest form” of WPvP would still do it, right? you know, because it’s all about “the risk”

Could be your upper lip that you’re smelling. :dracthyr_hehe_animated:

Not if everyone started to follower dungeon. This is only the start of the problem, which is why people are asking Blizzard to fix it now because it’s starting to become a problem.

There is no risk to anyone if they’re just teleporting out of PvP combat.

oh yea… that’s a big wiff of sodium right there.

but not you, right? you love “the risk”

but you don’t have to do it. so …?

You should probably wash off your lips then. :wink:

I go in War Mode to kill people and if I can’t kill anyone because people are teleporting out then that means WPvP is dying. So I guess.

I’m not doing it. Others are. WPvP becomes dead when everyone is teleporting and no ones fighting.

you can’t even hide it anymore. love it.

womp womp

no ones dying* people are fighting