Flying: Why must we wait until 8.2?

I enjoy not flying until the X.2 of the patch like in Legion, I get to explore the world it seems larger, and by the time X.2 roles out when I'm leveling more alts I can just fly by the boring stuff where I have already seen everything for the 10th+ time leveling characters to 120.

Fyi I already have 8 120's....


You say that like it precludes you from doing so when flying is implemented. That's not how that works.
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11/06/2018 11:47 AMPosted by Ava
11/06/2018 11:38 AMPosted by Zaranthosdk
Nice try though.

Where did I say you were playing?


11/06/2018 11:38 AMPosted by Ava
Seeya next week!


You're repeating the sarcastic "you're not really quitting" meme. I was just pointing out how crazy that is when I haven't played for months. So, no I won't be back next week, unless pathfinder time gate is removed.
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Pathfinder still exists for WoD so it’s gonna be a long time before pathfinder is eliminated for BFA..
11/05/2018 08:36 PMPosted by Charax
Flying may make the game fun for YOU but don’t presume to speak for others.


what part of you don't have to fly do you not understand?
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11/05/2018 09:16 PMPosted by Charax
11/05/2018 09:11 PMPosted by Truthspeaker
what makes you think the folks who prefer flying are a minority, vocal or otherwise? It seems the mass unsubbing when it was announced that there'd be no flying in WoD indicates the opposite.


Oh, I must have missed the report that stated X number of players unsubbed because of flying. Are you going to invent facts now for your argument?


I don't need to invent facts. It happened. It wasn't a coincidence.

11/05/2018 09:39 PMPosted by Crackbunny
It's a matter of record that even I am aware of, despite having left the game at the end of MoP, that trying to remove flying wholesale caused such an enormous backlash that they had to renege on that intended path nearly immediately.


^This is what I was referring to. Pathfinder was Blizzard's solution to bring back flying in some form because so many folks unsubbed when it was announced that there'd be no flying at all. Blizzard doesn't want us flying; the fact that we can eventually is only because without it, there'd be not enough people left playing to sustain the game.

11/05/2018 09:30 PMPosted by Padgarre
but frankly what would it add to the game that makes it better?


Fun. Efficiency. Some sense of character progression in the sense that there's something that can be attained at max level.

11/05/2018 09:29 PMPosted by Charax
Proposal:

War Mode players will be permanently grounded but they now get an exorbitant farming & reward bonus so that they are more efficient than flyers.


I'm fine with the first part, but not the second. "Exorbitant farming and reward bonus"? Because you want your cake and to eat it too? Own your decisions. If you'd rather stay grounded, then do so and accept the consequences of that decision. It seems to me slightly decreased efficiency in gathering resources is a small price to pay to be able to play the way you find most enjoyable.
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11/06/2018 12:21 PMPosted by Velara
Since WPvP is now exclusively phased, Blizzard could disable flight.

Another option, is take one of the many empty servers and make it no flight only. Offer free transfers ON to that server. If you ever want off you can pay $$ to Blizzard for that service.

I say give the no-fliers what they want.

Give us fliers what we want.

Everyone happy.


I like all of these ideas! *thumbs up*
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11/05/2018 06:59 PMPosted by Corruption
11/05/2018 06:48 PMPosted by Vixie
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No, your analogy is wrong. I don't care if you state your opinion is not subject to debate, you're just wrong. It's like having a single engine pilot's license and getting mad that you can't fly a F-22 Raptor.

Zuldazar and Kul'tiras have their own government. Your "federal pilot's license" doesn't cover other countries.


You need a separate licence for different types of crafts and I am quite correct in my analogy, you are the one who missed the point, but thats ok, you tried...


You need a separate *license for different areas of WoW's world. You're not flying to another state, you're in a different country. That's why we had to repurchase flying licenses with every xpac when we could fly. We don't have to buy those licenses for alts now with Pathfinder. Got it now?
11/06/2018 07:13 AMPosted by Razorstorm
1st... There are plenty of "customers" who are just fine with waiting a few months for flight to unlock.


lol didn't realize 19 was "a few" (that's how long it took in Legion for those with short memories).

11/06/2018 07:41 AMPosted by Ava
Well... that's a lie. It was 7 months.


No. It was 19 months from launch before we got flying unlocked. Don't know what point you're referencing, but it's not a lie.
11/06/2018 12:10 PMPosted by Zeerionjax
Keep it up people, pathfinder was not a compromise, if it was, they would have offered the option to buy flying with gold along with it. It's petty revenge plain and simple. Make them eat crow without condiments.
11/06/2018 06:05 PMPosted by Vixie
We don't have to buy those licenses for alts now with Pathfinder. Got it now?


Good for you, since you have alts. But for *new players*, this is a game killer.

I have had THREE new player friends I played with either complain about being able to fly then suddenly not able to once they hit WoD, and either quit shortly thereafter or just never touch the content ever again. Pathfinder is short-sighted, and not healthy for the long-term game, because this game needs new players.

Turn Pathfinder for old xpacs into a Feat of Strength, and just allow flying in those zones. Period.
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ive never really understood why the people that are constantly begging for flying to be added into the expansion early are also the ones who do the least amount of content.
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11/07/2018 05:17 AMPosted by Illidonkey
ive never really understood why the people that are constantly begging for flying to be added into the expansion early are also the ones who do the least amount of content.


I've done over 10k world quests, and 10k daily quests on this character a long time ago. How much flying do you do in raids and dungeons?
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11/07/2018 05:26 AMPosted by Razorstorm
11/07/2018 05:17 AMPosted by Illidonkey
ive never really understood why the people that are constantly begging for flying to be added into the expansion early are also the ones who do the least amount of content.


I've done over 10k world quests, and 10k daily quests on this character a long time ago. How much flying do you do in raids and dungeons?

How much flying do you really need to do your worthless world quests?
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11/07/2018 06:05 AMPosted by Illidonkey
11/07/2018 05:26 AMPosted by Razorstorm
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I've done over 10k world quests, and 10k daily quests on this character a long time ago. How much flying do you do in raids and dungeons?

How much flying do you really need to do your worthless world quests?


That's not the question, though. You made a statement about people favoring flying sooner rather than later doing the least amount of content. I, too, would like to know the content to which you refer.

Speaking just for myself, flying isn't about need; it's about want, and wanting to play in a way that I find most fun. Also, as someone who doesn't do dungeons, raids or pvp, world quests are far from worthless to me. They're my primary method of gearing outside of warfronts. Additionally, my main is a tailor/enchanter and WQs that award gear are a very good way to get crafting materials.
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11/07/2018 06:13 AMPosted by Truthspeaker
11/07/2018 06:05 AMPosted by Illidonkey
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How much flying do you really need to do your worthless world quests?


That's not the question, though. You made a statement about people favoring flying sooner rather than later doing the least amount of content. I, too, would like to know the content to which you refer.

Speaking just for myself, flying isn't about need; it's about want, and wanting to play in a way that I find most fun. Also, as someone who doesn't do dungeons, raids or pvp, world quests are far from worthless to me. They're my primary method of gearing outside of warfronts. Additionally, my main is a tailor/enchanter and WQs that award gear are a very good way to get crafting materials.

Game is too casual, stop trying to ruin it further.
11/05/2018 06:18 PMPosted by Ohenzo
Besides, by the the time flying is released the new content will likely be "no fly" anyways.

Such blatant disregard for customer satisfaction and experience would never 'fly' in
the real workplace world. And the hubris demonstrated by developers who seem to not care in the least what their community thinks astounds me.


Because there was this big war in WoD and many flyers died so now they are rare and endangered and Blizzard needs to carefully collect flyers as to not kill off any more lest there be greater repercussions then the first time.
11/07/2018 05:17 AMPosted by Illidonkey
ive never really understood why the people that are constantly begging for flying to be added into the expansion early are also the ones who do the least amount of content.


That's because we like being in the world. We're not asking for flying in raids/dungeons/instanced pvp. So the people that don't care about flying are the ones that are always in the content where you're not flying anyway. The people that want flying are the ones that enjoy doing their own thing....imagine that.
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11/07/2018 06:21 AMPosted by Illidonkey
11/07/2018 06:13 AMPosted by Truthspeaker
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That's not the question, though. You made a statement about people favoring flying sooner rather than later doing the least amount of content. I, too, would like to know the content to which you refer.

Speaking just for myself, flying isn't about need; it's about want, and wanting to play in a way that I find most fun. Also, as someone who doesn't do dungeons, raids or pvp, world quests are far from worthless to me. They're my primary method of gearing outside of warfronts. Additionally, my main is a tailor/enchanter and WQs that award gear are a very good way to get crafting materials.

Game is too casual, stop trying to ruin it further.


Wait let me get this straight. You got a valid answer to your original question and now you're just spewing hate? You're what's wrong with this game.
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11/05/2018 06:18 PMPosted by Ohenzo
Besides, by the the time flying is released the new content will likely be "no fly" anyways.


That's the point. They don't want the newest content open to flying.
11/07/2018 06:33 AMPosted by Ryuk
11/07/2018 06:21 AMPosted by Illidonkey
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Game is too casual, stop trying to ruin it further.


Wait let me get this straight. You got a valid answer to your original question and now you're just spewing hate? You're what's wrong with this game.

Spewing hate? That’s a good one. I just don’t want the herb/gem market to crash because of flying. Since you only do world quests I wouldn’t expect you to understand
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