They just need to upgrade the net-o-matic. Increase the range, shorten the cast time, speed up the projectile, and make it an AOE dismount centered on the target.
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Iâve always said this about the attitudes of the flyers vs the anti -Flyers.
Flyers: We like flying but you donât so use your ground mounts . You do you.
Anti- Flyers: We donât like flying so you should be forced to be on the ground. If you arenât playing it our way you are playing it wrong.
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Thank you. I appreciate this. My Hubby was dreading the grind and I thought Iâd lose being able to play with him easily.
yeah it kinda reminds me of this movie scene
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Well I support Pathfinder (part one only lol) and fully support this. I guess Iâm easy going.
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Maybe when you guys can come up with logical arguments rather than demonizing people and holding your sub hostage this topic can move past your ignorant âdonât flyâ non-argument. Youâve been spouting the same rhetoric for 4+ years and itâs done nothing. Youâre afraid to accept that when thereâs 2 options, and one option is 5x more efficient, people will choose that option. Not choosing it is less fun than just sucking it up. Just like playing in content where flight is unlocked is less fun than just sucking it up and playing current content. Easily accessibly fast flight imposes a play style just like you say no-flight does. If this topic is to go anywhere new, that has to be accepted.
Couldnât agree more
Happy to earn pathfinder 1 in content Iâm going to do anyways versus a gold sink
You canât. One side plays, other side sits in ironforge until the next major content patch or guild raid is going on.
Vast majority of wow population just wants to sit in instances 24/7 and canât handle the idea of anybody interacting with you without your consent.
Phase 2 in WoW classic showed this at an extreme. It was massively popular initially, with perfect balance. Then every single server became unbalanced in that specific way, until a content patch happens, then suddenly everything is ok again.
well lets see Blizzard telling us pathfinder will NO longer be mandatory to fly in WoD Legion and BFA when SL launches I wouldnât call nothing after all if we werenât being heard then why is Blizzard changing it?
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Thatâs a separate topic, I personally never really cared about removing the requirements for Pathfinder for old or new content. The wait is enough, the actual rep requirements arenât really necessary. If flight itself wonât be balanced or if its requirements arenât critical enough to make it plausible to choose not to obtain flight, then the wait must stay.
For example, I didnât get epic flight until late in BC because I didnât find it worth the price. Thatâs one avenue thatâs missing from the current system. The price was the barrier that made the option of not using flight plausible. When flight is easily accessible, itâs the only option because itâs efficiency is so unbalanced with everything else.
Except that the Cata CONTENT by and large was the new stuff. The other zones was revamped versions of older content.
So, their point still stands. If theyâre wanting to do the 4 NEW Zones in CATA, they need access to Flying rather fast. Of course with five levels of Cata content being stretched out to 40 levels(10 to 50), its hard to be sure if they wonât be 30 by the time Hyjal is done.
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There is no actual evidence of this at all. There is absolutely evidence that âno flight ever againâ spurned something Blizz wasnât expecting which led to the change in that decision within a couple of weeks. But there is zero evidence that PF actually led to additional subs being lost, or any being regained.
Actually, if we take the response to the original âno flight everâ announcement and use it as purely âanecdotalâ evidence, it would âproveâ that there was no significant sub loss based on PF being added (or any parts thereof) simply because they have yet to revert the decision to have that as the way to unlock flight.
Regardless⌠my original point to the person I responded to in the first place was that PF supporters probably donât have any issue with the change to the Warlords and Legion flight unlocks.
I donât mind Pathfinder. The concept is a Compromise. The TIMEGATE between part 1 and part 2 is where it stops being a Compromise and moves into being an Ultimatum.
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Iâm dumbstruck. Happy for the change. Totally stunned that Blizz chose a player friendly choice
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thats the thing that rubs people the wrong way the time gate
no more making us wait until the expansion is basically obsolete or right before the new one launches to finally give us flight and the issue with it would stop
all Blizzard has to do is just get rid of part 2 and the majority of the complaints would end
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Actually some do and those are the , I did it so you should have to crowd .
I did it and I donât care if they make it easier.
The wait is the only part that matters. Getting rid of part 2 means barely any wait at all, to the point you might as well just remove the wait. Thatâs not a compromise, thatâs just you getting what you want. Thatâs why I say it CAN be in from early in the expansion, if itâs balanced (like it used to be).We never really felt the effects of unrestricted fast flight until MoP, and they made the decision to change flight immediately after MoP.
Flight right now is essentially used as a nerfing mechanic for âoldâ content. Just like ilvl upgrading for valor was used as a nerf for content. Flight is too much of a content nerf to have right off the bat. Again, why I say balance it if we want it early in an xpac. By balance I donât mean make it unfun. IMO a balanced version of flight would be more satisfying than how it is now.
Iâm just explaining how it is for me. This would still be my view even if it were a singleplayer game, idc how you play, I care how the game systems work. To me, being in the air more often than weâre on the ground breaks immersion by going past my suspension of disbelief. The problem is that itâs too powerful to ignore when itâs available at the press of a button. I wouldnât care if it were like 25% more efficient, but itâs like 500% more efficient at least.
One patch is more than enough of a wait.
Woot!!! this is win for me! Thank you!
Okay, I left out the word âmostâ, but I did say âgenerally agreeâ originally and âprobablyâ in the reply you are replying to so that should imply âmostâ even without having said it.
I think the âI did it so you should have to do it tooâ crowd is probably fairly low in numbers. The vast majority (orâŚmost), I would guess, are much more similar in thinking to you and I (who donât care that the changes was made, or even think itâs a good change).