I totally agree with you here. There are so many little details you wouldn’t even notice if you flew over them. I don’t mind running around really, even in Nazjatar, but I still feel that once the expansion is winding down, flying should be more easily accessible.
Either way, Ill live. I use gliders a lot too, love those things.
They should bring back frost badges. People complain that there’s no reason to do dungeons and they’re right – the gear is so much lower than what can be found in WQs or bought with manapearls.
Yes, let’s copy what made Wrath so great. But no, not these devs…
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I don’t notice many details until I AM flying over them, because when I’m stuck on the ground I’m usually riding for my life and trying to avoid all the ground clutter. Riding in a panic doesn’t give you many opportunities to enjoy the scenery.
Your argument is ridiculous.
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Silly man, Ive been riding all over since the expansion started. I just dont play as much as the old days. So Im not just pulling crap out of my hat here.
I find riding a challenge as its realistic in my role-playing brain. Plus, I dont mind killing mobs, and I’m never in a “panic”. I’ve seen all of the scenery by riding, the currents in the streams, the hidden caves, (ill stop cause i could put 100 things here). Also, I love puzzles, and trying to get from point a to point b is a puzzle.
See? One persons ridiculous is another’s sensible. Yes, I would like the gate removed eventually as I’m never going to jump the hoops to get flying. Still, Im not phased, angry or panicked as its part of the game. Other people earned the right to fly and I get it.
tl:dr Stop and smell the roses. And in your case, take deep breaths. 
Funny, I didn’t find it very appealing having to do all these dungeons for badges. That’s why I preferred Pandaria. Earn your batches/vp any way you like. Raids have better gear anyways.
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The truth about WoW is that it is being mud-whimped to death. Pathfinger is just a part of it.
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How asinine. Sorry, that’s just ridiculous. Flying allows you to see every little pixel you want to see.
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Furthermore, I’ve seen the same content for over ten years… I’m tired of seeing it. Flying.
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As I stated, I can’t stop and smell the roses because I’m constantly fleeing from or trying to actively avoid ground clutter. I don’t know what game you’re playing where all the nearby mobs ignore you, but it certainly ain’t BfA.
As long as they let me earn something I’m not picky. I liked both Pandaria and Wrath.
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I did as well. In fact, there were parts of Cata I really loved. I did not love the destruction of Old Azeroth and I didn’t care a fig about Deathwing and his “trauma.”
Arthas was a very tough high to top, imho and the story remains the best of WCIII and WoW imho. Evocative, romantic, exciting, dangerous – it had it all.
My only beef with WOLTK is that the dungeons were hideously under-tuned.
MoP gave us possibly the best, most fun class builds ever. My lock misses Xelnath…
No, it’s quite obvious that killing 100 pointless mobs to get to the quest mob that actually matters is crap-poor game design. It’d be like, in Resident Evil, they put a Zombie in front of every single door and you’re required to kill those zombies because they do not ever move out from in front of the door front and they respawn every single time you need to go through a new door.
What does it add to the game? Absolutely nothing. What does 100 pointless mobs between you and the quest mob add to the game? Absolutely nothing.
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And there comes a point where hyperbole becomes a detriment to your argument.
the game is going downhill
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What it feels like is shifting the bar and calling their players stupid.
If the quest is to kill 8 Naga, but I have to kill another 12 Naga to get to those, it feels like I’m being played for a fool, and I don’t like that.
If the quest from the outset is to kill 20 Naga, fine.
Considering that Metrohaha’s initial argument was hyperbole, it’s only right to respond to it with the same level of hyperbole.
Besides, the Murlocs in Nazjatar always damn well feel like I’m having to plow through a hundred of them. And they still remain entirely pointless when I do kill them off.
Indeed. If they wanna have 3 different mobs in one area but require me to kill only one of them, is it any wonder why I wanna skip the other two mob types when they’re entirely pointless to the quest at hand?
If they wanna throw in 20 mobs into an area, make those 20 count to the quest, instead of only 1 in 3.
For one, you missed his point- re read his post and remember that hes not saying you have to kill a hundred mobs.
More on point, its a faulty premise to assert that hyperbole warrants hyperbole. It just reduces everything to noise. Which is fine if you don’t actually have a point to make and want to muddle things, but if you want to craft a persuasive argument you may want to reconsider your approach.
Dont put your frustration about flying on me. Its not my decision and I didnt say I was crazy about it either. I just hope they lift the gate when the expansion ends.
Again, I dont believe you see all the scenery details when you fly, and if you’re going to say its “assinine” to think so, well I think so, oh well. Plus, the new zones feel enormous, the hills, mountains, streams and cliffs all are felt when you have to run/ride across them.
I wasn’t stressed, and I didnt mind fighting my way across the map in fact I like it. We might just see/play the game differently is all. Im a parent so maybe I have more patience? I could see getting really frustrated if I was trying to skip groups and it backfired, yes. Dont do that. lol
It seems some of you want to remove the World part of World of Warcraft. B lining to each objective. Removing mobs to make it easier. Im so glad its not like that.
Anyway, Im sure Im not alone in this thinking. Even if they take the pathfinder parts out, I still agree you shouldnt be able to fly till your maxed level, that makes sense right?
Furthermore If you think the scenery/graphics havnt changed dramatially in the past “ten years”, I dont know what to say. Do you spend all your time in dungeons? But even they have improved visually. Im stumped.
No lie, players have been saying this since Vanilla.
Anyway, here is an old article from back when they first started this gated flying thing. Read #4
https://www.polygon.com/2015/5/22/8645293/world-of-warcraft-no-flying-tanaan-jungle-warlords-of-draenor-mmo-pc-blizzard
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Your ability to see must be impaired to support such a lack of “belief.”
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