Flame shock not resetting with lava lash in single target

[Seeward-area-52]

@Snowpine-ghostlands

i get that, my point is that they had something clear to say about this

600 posts says they didn’t say something clear. 12-14% single target is probably the biggest effective nerf that’s hit a spec in all of Shadowlands, and they didn’t even call it a nerf. That does not make sense. We are not asking for a response for the sake of a response, we are asking for a response because we don’t understand their intent.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

i wasnt being clear enough, by “this” i meant flame shock’s spreading issues

though their stance on the ele change was pretty clear, too - whether it deserved to be called a nerf or not isnt really an issue, and from what i can tell we’re asking for a response because we don’t like the change, straight up

[Caspr-hakkar]

Update on this? Still waiting on the unnecessary QoL removal to be reimplemented.

[Nimox-11491 (Nimox)]

Hello again,

Just wanted to drop a note in here that the hotfixes for today included the adjustments to Lava Lash and Flame Shock.

They can be read here:

WoW Hotfixes – Updated May 27

Hotfixes MAY 27, 2022 Dungeons and Raids Sepulcher of the First Ones Rygelon Dark Eruption damage reduced by 45% on Heroic difficulty. Collapsing Quasar Field duration increased to 12 seconds on Heroic difficulty (was 10 seconds). Cosmic Ejection initial damage decreased by 25%, and the damage over time decreased by 73% on Heroic difficulty. Developer’s note: This should reduce the requirement to split this damage amongst multiple players or utilize player immunities to avoid the dama…

[Lavawash-stormrage]

Thanks, while you’re at it can you wake up the ele sham person pls? we’re sorry to bother their hibernation, we’ve tried but the light breeze from our new SE is not enough.

[Giagnun-area-52]

I agree that they have been perfectly clear, whether people agree or not, that they felt the build created an accessibility concern and as such removed the ability of players to play that way.

However, they have absolutely not been clear if the overall loss of damage potential for the spec was intentional or not. The reason why many in the community want an answer is because we are stuck in limbo, and especially with the time investment required to get full tier, limbo is an awful place to be as a player. If they at least say “yes”, “no”, or “we are looking at it” then as players we can make an informed decision on whether to continue playing ele or switch to a different spec or class. If it were a minor change, this would not be as big of an issue, but according to the simulations we have available now, it is a 10% loss in single target dps - which is significant.

Right now, especially those people competing for mythic raid spots, are having to guess what the developers are thinking. People are also right that if the developers come out and say that they are happy with the current damage, they might take some flack from the community. However, by saying nothing they are doubling the pain: they will still take flack for whatever decision they make; but now, since we are left without any insight those players who guess incorrectly about whether to stay ele or swap will be harmed a second time. That doesn’t even include how awful it feels to be stuck in limbo at this point in the raid tier.

The decision is what it is. Some people may like it, some people won’t. However, by not communicating their intentions regarding damage potential the developers are compounding the problem and burning significant good will with the community.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

i dont see a ton of value in them saying it was or wasn’t intentional, since the result is the same either way

if anything id prefer they wait until they have some form of compensation and say what it is theyre planning, and im sure they know theyre stepping on eggshells to even address it without having a plan first